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Äîáðûé äåíü. Ñ 1796 ïî 1915 ãîä ÌÊ íàõîäÿòñÿ â Æèòîìèðñêîì àðõèâå, Ôîíä 1 https://zhytomyr.archives.gov.ua/?page_id=6861. Âîëèíñüêà ãóáåðí³ÿ 2. Âîëèíñüêà ºïàðõ³ÿ 3. Öåðêâà гçäâà Ïðåñâÿòî¿ Áîãîðîäèö³, ñ. Ãîëèø³ Êèñîðèöüêî¿ âîë. Îâðóöüêîãî ïîâ. 4. Ñåëà: Âîíÿõà, Ìàéäàí, Ìàð’ÿí³âêà, Íåòðåáà, Ïðèõîä 5. Íàðîäæåííÿ: 1796–1798: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 1, 2; 1799–1880: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 229, 230; 1805–1808: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 232, 235–237; 1810: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 240; 1812: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 241; 1815: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 242; 1817: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 244; 1818: îï. 87, ñïð. 2; 1819–1822: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 245–247, 251; 1824: ô. 1, îï. 84, ñïð. 47; 1825: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 252; 1828–1833: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 255–260; 1835–1836: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 271, 272; 1838: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 276; 1840–1841: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 284, 283; 1843–1848: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 290, 291, 293, 295, 298, 299; 1850–1851: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 304, 307; 1853–1857: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 311, 314, 316, 317, 320; 1858–1862: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 322, 326, 328, 330, 331, 332; 1863–1867: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 334, 335, 339, 343; 1868: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 344; 1869: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 4; 1870–1874: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 206, 42, 45, 46, 54; 1875–1879: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 51, 53, 208, 211, 214; 1880–1884: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 217, 221, 226, 232, 236; 1885–1889: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 241, 510, 516, 522, 528; 1890–1895: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 533, 539, 544, 550, 556; 1896–1899: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1121, 1135, 1149, 1162; 1900–1904: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1172, 1182, 1192, 1202, 1210; 1905–1909: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1217, 1224, 1231, 1241, 1248; 1910–1915: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1257, 1267, 1277, 1287, 1296, 1302 6. Øëþá: 1796–1798: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 1, 2; 1799–1880: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 229, 230; 1805–1808: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 232, 235–237; 1810: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 240; 1812: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 241; 1815: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 242; 1817: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 244; 1818: îï. 87, ñïð. 2; 1819–1822: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 245–247, 251; 1824: ô. 1, îï. 84, ñïð. 47; 1825: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 252; 1828–1833: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 255–260; 1835–1836: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 271, 272; 1838: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 276; 1840–1841: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 284, 283; 1843–1848: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 290, 291, 293, 295, 298, 299; 1850–1851: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 304, 307; 1853–1857: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 311, 314, 316, 317, 320; 1858–1862: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 322, 326, 328, 330, 331, 332; 1863–1867: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 334, 335, 339, 343; 1868: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 344; 1869: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 4; 1870–1874: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 206, 42, 45, 46, 54; 1875–1879: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 51, 53, 208, 211, 214; 1880–1884: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 217, 221, 226, 232, 236; 1885–1889: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 241, 510, 516, 522, 528; 1890–1895: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 533, 539, 544, 550, 556; 1896–1899: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1121, 1135, 1149, 1162; 1900–1904: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1172, 1182, 1192, 1202, 1210; 1905–1909: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1217, 1224, 1231, 1241, 1248; 1910–1915: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1257, 1267, 1277, 1287, 1296, 1302 7. – 8. Ñìåðòü: 1796–1798: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 1, 2; 1799–1880: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 229, 230; 1805–1808: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 232, 235–237; 1810: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 240; 1812: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 241; 1815: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 242; 1817: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 244; 1818: îï. 87, ñïð. 2; 1819–1822: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 245–247, 251; 1824: ô. 1, îï. 84, ñïð. 47; 1825: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 252; 1828–1833: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 255–260; 1835–1836: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 271, 272; 1838: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 276; 1840–1841: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 284, 283; 1843–1848: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 290, 291, 293, 295, 298, 299; 1850–1851: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 304, 307; 1853–1857: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 311, 314, 316, 317, 320; 1858–1862: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 322, 326, 328, 330, 331, 332; 1863–1867: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 334, 335, 339, 343; 1868: ô. 1, îï. 74, ñïð. 344; 1869: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 4; 1870–1874: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 206, 42, 45, 46, 54; 1875–1879: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 51, 53, 208, 211, 214; 1880–1884: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 217, 221, 226, 232, 236; 1885–1889: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 241, 510, 516, 522, 528; 1890–1895: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 533, 539, 544, 550, 556; 1896–1899: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1121, 1135, 1149, 1162; 1900–1904: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1172, 1182, 1192, 1202, 1210; 1905–1909: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1217, 1224, 1231, 1241, 1248; 1910–1915: ô. 1, îï. 77, ñïð. 1257, 1267, 1277, 1287, 1296, 1302 9. – 10. – Çà ïåðèîä ñ 1890 íà ñàéòå åñòü òîëüêî îäíà îöèôðîâàííàÿ ÌÊ, äåëî 1121 1896–1899 ãã: ô. 1, îï. 77, ä. 1121, 1135, 1149, 1162 Ñ 1920 ãîäà (åäèíè÷íûå äåëà 1919 ã) ñìîòðèòå àêòîâûå çàïèñè â êíèãàõ ÇÀÃÑ Îïèñè ÇÀÃÑ https://zhytomyr.archives.gov.ua/?page_id=280Ñ 1923 ãîäà ñåëî Ãîëûøè (Ãîëûøè äî 1960 ãîäà, Æîâòíåâîå äî 2016, Êàëèíîâêà ñ 2016) âõîäèëî â Îëåâñêèé ðàéîí. | | Ëàéê (1) |
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25 ÿíâàðÿ 2025 1:36 Combatant íàïèñàë: [q] Íàñêîëüêî ìíå èçâåñòíî èç èñòîðèè, äî 1921 ã. Ñîâåòñêîé âëàñòè â Çàïàäíûõ ðàéîíàõ Óêðàèíû (èìååòñÿ ââèäó òåððèòîðèè â ãðàíèöàõ äî 1939 ã.) ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå ñóùåñòâîâàëî: òî íåìåöêàÿ îêêóïàöèÿ, òî ÓÍÐ, òî ïîëüñêàÿ îêêóïàöèÿ, òî ãðàæäàíñêàÿ âîéíà...  ãîðîäàõ îðãàíû ÇÀÃÑ ïîÿâèëèñü ïîñëå 1921 ã., ãäå ðàíüøå - ãäå ïîçæå, à â ìåëêèõ ñåëàõ è õóòîðàõ, âîîáùå íå áûëî íèêàêîé âëàñòè.[/q]
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Âàø âîïðîñ áûë î êîíêðåòíîé öåðêâè è í.ï. - â ïåðâîì ñîîáùåíèè ÿ ïðèâåëà èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ýòîé öåðêâè èç îôèöèàëüíîãî êàòàëîãà Æèòîìèðñêîãî àðõèâà. Åñëè Âû ñîìíåâàåòåñü â ýòîé èíôîðìàöèè, ñêà÷àéòå êàòàëîã è ïðîâåðüòå ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî. Åñëè è â êàòàëîãå íå óâåðåíû, íàïèøèòå â àðõèâ (ìîæíî íà ýëåêòðîííóþ ïî÷òó) è óòî÷íèòå, ïîñòóïàëè ëè òàêèå ÌÊ ê íèì íà õðàíåíèå èëè íåò. Âîò åù¸ åñòü îöèôðîâàííàÿ èñïîâåäíàÿ ðîñïèñü 1912 ãîä https://uk.m.wikisource.org/wi...E/1/74/352 | | Ëàéê (1) |
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