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Ìåíÿ çîâóò Òîëìà÷åâ Àëåêñàíäð Þðüåâè÷, 1956 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ. Ìîè ïðåäêè òîæå æèëè â Ñòàâðîïîëüñêîì êðàå. Ìîé îòåö Òîëìà÷åâ Þðèé Èâàíîâè÷ æèâåò â Ñòàâðîïîëå è ïîíûíå. Ìîé äåä Òîëìà÷åâ Èâàí Òèìîôååâè÷ òàê æå ïðîæèâàë â êðàéöåíòðå, æåíàò áûë íà Åêàòåðèíå Èâàíîâíå, â äåâè÷åñòâå Êîëüöîâîé. Ìîè ðîäèòåëè ðàçîøëèñü î÷åíü äàâíî è ïîýòîìó ÿ ìàëî çíàþ î ñâîèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ ïî îòöîâñêîé ëèíèè.  äåòñòâå ìîÿ áàáóøêà ïî ëèíèè ìàòåðè ðàññêàçûâàëà, ÷òî ÿ àòàìàíñêèé ïðàâíóê è ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Òèìîôåÿ Òîëìà÷åâà ðàññòðåëÿëè êðàñíûå âî âðåìÿ ãðàæäàíñêîé âîéíû. Ïîìíèòñÿ îíà óïîìèíàëà, ÷òî ïðàäåä áûë èç ñò. Íîâîàëåêñàíäðîâñêîé (íå òî÷íî). Õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü ïîáîëüøå î òåõ äàëüíèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ - Òîëìà÷åâûõ è Êîëüöîâûõ.

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 ÃÀ ÐÔ íàøëà óïîìèíàíèÿ î Òîëìà÷¸âûõ:
2 ìàÿ 1944ã Òîë.ÀÐ Ãåðìàíèÿ ëàãåðü 8 Êóáàíñêèé êàçàê.
20 íîÿáðÿ 1942ã Ãåðìàíèÿ. Òîë. À È.- Ðàçûñêèâàåò ñåìüþ - æåíó è 5 äåòåé. Îñòàâèë èõ â Íàóðñêîì õ / ñ ñîâõîçå N2
Ïîëêîâíèê Òîë. Ñåðãåé Íèêîëàåâè÷ 7.05.1921ã. Ïîãðåá¸í íà áðàòñêîì êëàäáèùå ã Ãàëëèïîëèÿ Òóðöèÿ.
Òîë. Ãåîðãèé1894ã ïîðó÷èê Äðîçäîâñêîãî ïîëêà. Â1922-24ã áûë â Ãîëëèïîëèè.
Òîë.Âàñèëèé äî 05 1922ã áûë â 1-é ïåõîòíîé äèâèçèè Êîðíèëîâñêîãî ïîëêà, ìë. óí. îôèöåð.
1924ã Òîë. Ñåðãåé - ó ÷åíèê 2 êë. êàäåòñêîãî êîðïèñà ã Ñàðàåâ. Îòåö-ñëóæèòåëü íà æ/ä.
Òîë Áîðèñ - òàì æå.
Òîë. ßêîâ êàçàê. 26.06.1919ã çà÷èñëåí âî 2-é òåðñêèé àðò. ïëàñòóíñêèé äèâèçèîí.
Òîë.Àë.Àíàò. ïîãèá 16.11.1942ã çàõîðîíåí â Ôèíëÿíäèè - Êîêîëàí

Hello - I have a few pictures on another forum (link below) that I'm trying to determine. One person thought it could be Ilya Tolmachev. Do you have any pictures of your family members that you could show or over? This General in the picture was godfather to my great-grandmother Katherine, perhaps a friend of her father. His name may have Boris Scheleff or shelev. Her father had died earlier. There is no picture of her father. I hope you'll go to the link on Alexander palace forum and take a look. One of the forum members wrote this but I do not know if it is complete fact:
"archvstlisa, your great grandmother's godfather was colonel of Sunzhensko-Vladikavkazskiy regiment of Terek cossack host, most probably the regiment's commander. His awards include St. Anna 2nd class, St. Stanislav 2nd class, St. Vladimir 4th class, all with swords - i.e. for war distinctions. The star below the crosses is of the Persian order of Lion and Sun, not unusual for a senior Caucasian officer. The cross with swords beside the star is not an order but a commemorative award for the 50th anniversary of the conquest of Caucasus. It gives this photo a "time-stamp": after 1909 but prior to 1914. The colonel's name is probably Ilya Tolmachev, the Sunzhensko-Vladikavkazskiy's commander in 1910-1913.
It wasn't unusual for junior officers and senior distinguished NCOs to invite their commanders to serve as godfathers of their newborn children."
Thank you, Lisa http://forum.alexanderpalace.o ... # msg426314

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Ìîé ïðàäåä Òîëìà÷åâ Èâàí Ãðèãîðüåâè÷ (1895 ãð/ óìåð â 1965), áûë æåíàò íà Òîëìà÷åâîé (Ñóõàíîâîé) Àííå Ìàêñèìîâíå (1895 ãð/ óìåðëà â 1980). Èõ äåòè:
1. Ìàêååâà (Òîëìà÷åâà) Ìàðèÿ Èâàíîâíà (1914), ñóïðãó Ìàêååâ Àëåêñåé Àëåêñååâè÷ (1916), äåòè: Ìàêååâ Âëàäèìèð Àëåêñååâè÷ (1951), Ìàêååâ Ýäóàðä Àëåêñååâè÷ (1937);
2. Äîðîôååâà (Òîëìà÷åâà) Àííà Èâàíîâíà (1916), ñóïðóã Äîðîôååâ Âëàäèìèð ßêîâëåâè÷ (1916), äåòè: Äîðîôååâ Þðèé Âëàäèìèðîâè÷ (1941), Áîãèíà (Äîðîôååâà) Âàëåíòèíà Âëàäèìèðîâíà (1945)
3. Ïðèõîäüêî (Òîëìà÷åâà) Äàðüÿ Èâàíîâíà (1925), ñóïðóã Ïðèõîäüêî Ïåòð Êóçüìè÷ (1918), äåòè: Ïðèõîäüêî Âÿ÷åñëàâ Ïåòðîâè÷ (1947)
4. Òîëìà÷åâ Íèêîëàé Èâàíîâè÷
5. Òîëìà÷åâ Èâàí Èâàíîâè÷

Ïðîæèâàëè â ñåëå Ïðåãðàäíîå (êàêîé òî õóòîð ðÿäîì, íàçâàíèÿ íå çíàþ), Ñòàâðîïîëüñêîãî êðàÿ, à ïîòîì ïåðåõàëè â ã. Íîâîàëåêñàíäðîâñê, Ñòàâðîïîëüñêîãî êðàÿ. Íàâåðíîå â òå âðåìåíà ýòè íàñåëåííûå ïóíêòû íàçûâàëèñü ïî äðóãîìó, íî ÿ èõ çíàþ ïî òàêèì íàçâàíèÿì. Ïîìíþ â äåòñòâå îòåö âîçèë ìåíÿ â õóòîð íà áåðåãó ðåêè, ïî ñîñåäñòâó ñ Ïðåãðàäíûì. Õóòîðà ñàìîãî íå áûëî óæå, òîëüêî ñòàðîå ìàëåíüêîå êëàäáèùå íà êðàþ ïîëÿ è îãðîìíûé äóá èëè òîïîëü â ïîëå. Îòåö ñêàçàë ÷òî ó îäíîãî ìóæèêà ïîä äåðåâîì â âîéíó ïîõîðîíèëè âñþ ñåìüþ è îí äîáèëñÿ ÷òîáû ýòî äåðåâî íå ñíåñëè âìñåñòå ñ õóòîðîì â ïàìÿòü î ñåìüå.

ß âèæó òóò ìíîãî Òîëìà÷åâûõ, íî âäðóã êîìó-òî èç Âàñ ìîÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ áóäåò ïîëåçíîé, à ÿ áóäó ðàä óçíàòü î íîâûõ ñåìåéíûõ ñâÿçÿõ è êîðíÿõ. Ìîè ïîèñêè ïðåäêîì ñîâñåì ñêðîìíûå è íà ýòîì ôîðóìå ïîêà ÿ íè ÷åãî íå íàøåë ïîõîæåâî íà ìîèõ. Áóäó áëàãîäàðåí åñëè ó êîãî-òî èç Âàñ åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ î ìîèõ ïðåäêàõ.

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