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Сообщения tomnow (6)Тема: Новицкие
17.05.2018, 5:38
Since last year we found a bit about the family,
see my previous posts
and the second one.
We learned a lot about Zygmunt (married, no children 1898-1955) and nothing about Maria-Marcelina-Ewa (?-? died young?)
We learned nothing about Jan (Iwan) son of Jan greatson of Michał and his descendants.
We learned that our greatgrand father Józef married not Julie Adele but her sister (new!) (one of other five sisters) Elżbieta (Elisabeth Wilhelmine) Pieńkowska (1860-1939)
We learned that Jakub Nowicki, father of Adolf, Henryk and Wincenty-Witold is in fact Adolf-Jakub 1875-1930,
one of six brothers including my geat grand father Józef,
all sons of Franciszek son of Ludwik and (new!) Wincentyna Skrzyńska.
I now know all descendants of Wincenty-Witold (two children and two grandchildren and five greatgrandchildren).
I do know about two children of Henryk (and about the family of his wife) and try to learn more about Henryk's grand children (possibly four).
I know nothing about Adolf, the brother of Wincenty-Witold and Henryk, apparently he was married and had a son.
The three brothers were born in 1900-1905 died in 1970-1975.
We found that another brother of Adolf-Jakub and Józef, Aleksander lived (new!) 1872-1938 he was shot dead by NKWD.
Aleksander and Adolf were born in (new!) Prochorivka near StaroKonstantynov.
We found that the fourth son of Franciszek and Wincentyna, Wincenty married Eliza Łada
and was a bookkeeper in sugar factory in Kalnik, after the father of the writer Jarosław Iwaszkiewicz,
Jarosław mentions Wincent and Elizain his memoirs (but very unfavorable). We do not know about any children.
We still do not know about the other two of the six brothers Bronisław and Stanisław.
From the other branch of the family, the descendants of Franciszek-Łukasz, brother of Ludwik (both sons of Jan, greatsons of Michal)
who was the father of Franciszek and grandfather of the six brothers:
Józef-Otto, son od Antoni (and greatson of Franciszek-Łukasz) and (new!) Julia Szczerbińska was born in 1839 near Horbulev near Zhytomir
and in 1872 married Bronisława Grabkowska daughter of Kazimierz Grabkowski and Maria Kochanowicz, there is a scan of the marriage act.
Józef-Otto was a head of the telegraph station in Erevan (Armenia) in 1873, and also in Nuha (now Sheki in Azerbeijan) in 1882 (adres-calendar)
They (probably) had three sons: Franciszek, Stanisław and Kazimierz, the last one born in Nuha in 1880 - this yet needs to be confirmed.
Kazimierz married Maria Irena Kowalewska (born 1895 in Ekaterinoslav). They had three daughters Zofia Anna (born in Warsaw 1930, late child it seems),
Iga and Hanka -again this needs to be confirmed.
If you know anything about any of them and also about the other branches of the this family please let me know.
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Тема: Довгерд
12.06.2017, 4:27
Миколас Стэпонас Даугирдас
это мой пра пра дед,
его сын Александр женился на Антонине Клопотовской
дочери Юляна и Елены Эзекели Кобельской.
У брата Юляна , Яна, был сын Болеслав Героним Клопотовский, архиепископ.
У Александра с Антониной были три раза близнецы, только остальная пара, моя бабушка Елена и ее сестра Ида (Зинейда) рр 1888, прожили, потом была еще одна сестра Нюся (Антонина). В семье все женщины испугались возможных близнецов но пока все в порядке.
На Елене женился мой дед Франц (-Ксавери) Иосифов Новицкий, которого предков лишь недавно нашел,
с помощей идеи этого форума
https://forum.vgd.ru/post/1238/17194/p2403149.htm#pp2403149
Довгирды очень хорошо описаны и широко розвинутые в Geni.com на пример
https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000012098356287
прошу прощайте мой совсем плохой язык
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Тема: Новицкие
17.04.2017, 20:09
Looking at what people were doing I found
on http://chigirin.narod.ru/book.html
the link to
Список дворян Волынской губернии. Житомир, 1906 (формат djvu)
narod.ru/disk/7151711000/spis_wolynski.djvu.html
and there several Nowicki's and on page 370
my grand father Franciszek, his sister Maria and his brother Zygmunt, together with their father Jozef and his ancestors Franciszek, Ludwik, Jan(Iwan), Michal, reaching into 1778 (speculative dates)
Here is the essence of this find:
Dates in parenthesis are calculated as the latest possible birth date i.e. a person was born before this date.
I assumed that the children in Список are enumerated in their birth order (eldest coming first), each next child is younger by one year.
Parents should be at least 20 at the birth of the first child (physically not necessary but practically yes)
Each person was born before its mention in Список.
Each new person deserves a new line below.
I wrote the transliterarion of the nmaes and their Polish versions:
Item 2526 12 July 1848
Nowickije/ Nowiccy:
Franc-Luka (Franciszek-Lukasz, 1818) son of Iwan Michajlowicz
(that is son of Iwan 1798,
who was son of Michal 1778)
with sons (of Franciszek-Lukasz)
Ignat-Erazm (Ignacy-Erazm1842)
Winkentij (Wincenty 1843)
Item 3323 15 May 1867
Michail (Michal1844) with sons
Sewrin (Seweryn 1864),
Ljudwik (Ludwik 1865)
Thom (Tomasz 1866)
and Iosif (Jozef 1845)
sons of
Iwan (Iwan (Jan?) 1819), grandsons of Iwan Michaijowicz,
Pjotr (Piotr 1866) son of
Stanislaw (Stanislaw 1846) grandson of Iwan, greatgrandson of the same Iwan Michajlowicz,
Anton (Antoni 1844) son of Franc (Franciszek, assumed Franciszek -Lukasz above) greatgrandson of Iwan Michajlowicz with sons
Franc (Franciszek 1864)
Iosif-Otton (Jozef-Otto 1865)
Wiktor (Wiktor 1866)
Item 945 13 March 1877
Franc (Franciszek 1840) son of
Ludwik (Ludwik 1820) grandson of Iwan Michajlowicz with sons
Iosif (Jozef 1860, my greatgrandfather who married Elzbieta (not Julie Adele) Pienkowska born in 1860- Elzbieta's birthday is confirmed, but Jozef's is speculative)
Stanislaw (Stanislaw 1872 )
Bronislaw (Bronislaw 1873)
Wikentij(Wincenty 1874)
Aleksandr (Aleksander 1875 )
Adolf (Adolf 1876)
Item 808 26 July 1904
Franc (Franciszek 1889, my grandfather precise date is known and confirmed)
Marija-Marcelina-Ewa (Maria-Marcelina-Ewa between 1889 a 1898, speculative, existence confirmed)
Sigismund (Zygmunt 1898. precise date is known and confirmed)
(above mentioned are) children of Iosif Francewicz (that is Jozef son of Franciszek)
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In short
Michal 1778 father of one son
Jan 1798
Jan 1798 had three sons
Franciszek-Lukasz 1818 Iwan 1819 Ludwik 1820
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Franciszek Lukasz 1818 father of three sons
Ignacy-Erazm 1842 Wincenty 1843 Antoni 1844
Antoni had three sons
Franciszek 1864 Jozef-Otto 1865 Wiktor 1866
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Iwan 1819 father of three sons
Michal 1844 Jozef 1845 Stanislaw 1846
Michal 1844 had three sons
Seweryn 1864 Ludwik 1865 Tomasz 1866
Stanislaw 1846 had one son
Piotr 1866
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Ludwik 1820 father of one son
Franciszek 1840
Franciszek 1840 had six sons
Jozef (my great grandfather) 1860 Stanislaw 1872 Bronislaw 1873 Wincenty 1874 Aleksander 1875 Adolf 1876
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Known born Nowicki's in direct line
----speculative dates
Michal
son of Michal: Iwan
sons of Iwan: Franciszek-Lukasz, Iwan, Ludwik
son of Ludwik: Franciszek
sons of Franciszek: Jozef, Stanislaw, Bronislaw, Wincenty, Aleksander, Adolf
---confirmed dates
children of Jozef : Franciszek Ksawery, Maria-Marcelina-Ewa, Zygmunt
children of Franciszek-Ksawery : Michal, Jan, Teresa
children of Jan : Ewa-Monika, Dorota-Maria, Tomasz-Jan
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So my quest is partially done.
If you have any information of any of these people please (including side branches)let me know.
I am also very interested in connecting to
Jakub Nowicki (married Oktawia Dzierzbinska)
who had sons
Adolf Henryk and Wincenty (Witold) around 1900
cheers
t.
There is an update one year later
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Тема: Киевский институт благородных девиц
9.03.2017, 20:37
My grand mother Helena Dowgird (b. 1888) daughter of Alexander and Antonina Klopotowska
was in the Kiev Institute, but I have no confirmation.
She was there with her two sisters, twin Ida and younger Antonina (b 1892)
She later married Franciszek Ksawery Nowicki (who studied mathematics in Kiev, diplom in 1911) son of Jozef
They had two sons Jan (my father) and Michal and a daughter Teresa.
Moved to Warsaw in 1920.
Anyone could confirm Helena in the Institute? or any other information on my family?
Thanks in advance
Tomasz Nowicki
sorry for the rotation. Helena on the left, Antonina in the middle, Ida on the right
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Тема: Новицкие
9.02.2017, 6:15
I am sorry not to be able to write in Russian.
I am Tomasz Nowicki,
son of Jan Nowicki who was born in Kiev in 1915,
Jan was a son of Franciszek Ksawery Nowicki born in 1889 and Helena Dowgird born in 1888
Franciszek was a son of Jozef Nowicki born in 1840
and Julia Adele Pienkowska born in 1847 in Zhytomir.
I am looking for any information about Jozef and his parents and other two (?) of his children besides Franciszek: Zygmunt (?) and Maria (?)
Granfather Franciszek was studying mathematics in Kiev and thanks to a friend at the university there
I have a copy of his final dissertation from 1911
written beautifully by hand in Cyrillic.
Franc Josifowicz Nowickij "Nekotoryje preobrazawania elipticzeskich funkcjii" (On some transformation of elliptical functions)
(sorry for butchering the language)
The handwritten script uses a letter i in addition to и, I am not sure if that means it is in Ukrainian rather than in (older) Russian.
In 1920 the family of Franciszek Helena with Jan and his brother Michal fled to Warsaw.
I will appreciate any help.
PS.
There are no better matches in GENI.com nor ancestry.com nor MyHeritage.com
I can read (with difficulty) Russian but have trouble to search Russian sites.
Best regards
Tomasz
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