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Andrey MaslennikovÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4281 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2679 | Ââåðõ #14 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 20:27 Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] This personnel file I got from the RGWIA in Moscow last year.[/q]
This is: Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] 1. It could be a personal file at Russian State Historical-Military Archive.[/q]
Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] A good quality I will send to you via mail. I hope it will be better.[/q]
Yes. Thanks. I took a look at this file. It is stated the Dmitriy Krestovozdvizhenskij was hereditary nobleman, but there are no file about this nobility status, moreover, there is no Krestovozdvizhenskijs in the list of hereditary noblemen of St. Petersburg region. It is confusing. But there is Krestovskiy (file and in the list). I am not sure, but it could be the case that Dmitriy changed his last same for whatever reason. Maybe not. I would suggest first to to gather information from at least two files of Dmitriy Krestovozdvizhenskij from Russian State Archive. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #15 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 0:02 For an further order I have to collect more information about the family. It is easier for me, because the payment from Europe to Russian archives was very difficult last year.
What do you think about ZGIA in St. Petersburg? Are there any registers for passports or family books? I know, his father lived in St. Petersburg and his brother Arkadij, too. Unfortunately I didn't find any information about him in the adress books of St. Petersburg after 1910. It seems, that the whole family leaved St. Petersburg or Russia. | | |
Andrey MaslennikovÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4281 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2679 | Ââåðõ #15 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 0:20 Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] What do you think about ZGIA in St. Petersburg? Are there any registers for passports or family books?[/q]
Yes. They have, but you need to know the Church where Book was written... Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] For an further order I have to collect more information about the family.[/q]
Sure. When I will be in Russian State Archive I will check catalogs. Will see. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #15 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 10:07 Many thanks for your help again.
I try to find more information in memory books and address books, which I found and hope to find more information.
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 10:52 Andrey!
A few days ago I sent the personnel file to you. Do you look at this? What about the letters? For me it was very hard to read. Can you give me an summary?
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Andrey MaslennikovÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4281 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2679 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 11:10 Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] A few days ago I sent the personnel file to you. Do you look at this?[/q]
Yes. Previously, I wrote: Andrey Maslennikov íàïèñàë: [q] Thanks. I took a look at this file. It is stated the Dmitriy Krestovozdvizhenskij was hereditary nobleman, but there are no file about this nobility status, moreover, there is no Krestovozdvizhenskijs in the list of hereditary noblemen of St. Petersburg region. It is confusing. But there is Krestovskiy (file and in the list). I am not sure, but it could be the case that Dmitriy changed his last same for whatever reason. Maybe not.[/q]
Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] What about the letters? For me it was very hard to read. Can you give me an summary?[/q]
I can try during next week. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 11:22 Okay, thanks. By the way: The family of his wife had a nobility status, too. During my research I found a lot of Krestovskij. For example I found the site http://okps.narod.ru/. Here Krestovozdivzhenskij is listed, too. The brother of his wife, Nikolaj Hunnius, is listed in the memory books of the Gouvernement Kowno. Strangely there are entries to 1909 and then he disappears without a trace, too. I am looking for any ideas where I can look for. | | |
Andrey MaslennikovÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4281 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2679 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 11:43 Kelli_DI will take a look during next week. Poke me on next holidays. Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] Strangely there are entries to 1909 and then he disappears without a trace, too.[/q]
Possibly, moved to Siberia. I know at least one family who have nobility status in Belarus and moved in ~1880 to Siberia. Reason unknown, any information about them in Belarus is missed (at least it is hard to recover right know). Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] During my research I found a lot of Krestovskij.[/q]
I didn't really face with this last name and it's history as well as Krestovozdivzhenskij. A long-time ancestor of Krestovozdivzhenskij might be a priest or a peasant associated with Church. Krestovskij might have the same story but right now, I didn't see any direct connection between Krestovozdivzhenskij and Krestovskij. | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 12:09 Yesterday I found one more note in the memory book of my grandma. She wrote, that Selma (this is the mother of Dmitrijs wife) went with her family to Romania. But my grandmother was confused in the last live years. So this information is very uncertainly.
Â÷åðà ÿ íàøåë åùå îäíó çàïèñü â äíåâíèêå áàáóøêè. Îíà ïèøåò, ÷òî Ñåëüìà (ìàòü æåíû Äìèòðèÿ) óåõàëà ñ åå ñåìüåé â Ðóìûíèþ. Íî áàáóøêà â ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû æèçíè áûëà íå ñîâñåì â ñåáå, ïîýòîìó èíôîðìàöèÿ î÷åíü íåíàäåæíàÿ. | | |
Andrey MaslennikovÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4281 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2679 | Ââåðõ #17 ÿíâàðÿ 2014 12:28 Kelli_D íàïèñàë: [q] Yesterday I found one more note in the memory book of my grandma. She wrote, that Selma (this is the mother of Dmitrijs wife) went with her family to Romania. But my grandmother was confused in the last live years. So this information is very uncertainly.[/q]
Knowing name could be a possibly great thing.. Will see. | | |
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