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Looking For A Marriage Record

Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire

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I tried searching the whole "surnameindex" site with Grigoriy Netchaev's name to see if there were any other matches and came across this link: http://www.surnameindex.info/i...index.html
On this page we see "1904-1905 - псаломщик Григорий Нечаев". He's the only Grigoriy Netchaev I found, but what does "псаломщик" mean? Google translates this as: psalmist but I'm not sure what that means
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This is a clergyman, a person who sings psalms. Psalm is lyrical prayer poetry.
I think this is not your Grigory Netchaev
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I tried searching the whole "surnameindex" site with Grigoriy Netchaev's name to see if there were any other matches and came across this link: http://www.surnameindex.info/i...index.html
On this page we see "1904-1905 - псаломщик Григорий Нечаев". He's the only Grigoriy Netchaev I found, but what does "псаломщик" mean? Google translates this as: psalmist but I'm not sure what that means
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This is a clergyman, a person who sings psalms. Psalm is lyrical prayer poetry.
I think this is not your Grigory Netchaev
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ok ok I see, so actually his presence in 1877-1878 is the only thing we could find on him.
It is not possible to find more information on his military career?
Maybe though this : https://www.familysearch.org/s...ALithuania or this : https://www.familysearch.org/s...%20Library
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя FuranNietchaieff от 23 июля 2023 13:25

I'll try to look up later at those links, around weekend. But I can't guarantee because it eats up a lot of time...

But my opinion is that it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. The best option is to wait if someone accidentally stumbles upon a marriage record of interest or shorten the years and search territories
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя FuranNietchaieff от 23 июля 2023 13:25

I'll try to look up later at those links, around weekend. But I can't guarantee because it eats up a lot of time...

But my opinion is that it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. The best option is to wait if someone accidentally stumbles upon a marriage record of interest or shorten the years and search territories
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I see. We still lack clues then. I will first try to find Maria Tolstoi's birth certificate by making a request to the Belarusian archives. Unless someone suddenly tells me that Mogieleff is not Mogilev in Belarus. If I have her parents, I think I can clear up his whole branch, only Grigoriy will be left. After that, I'll see what more I can do.
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I have new information about Grigoriy Netchaiev. He died in 1918 in Kaunas, Lithuania. I will try to obtain his death record to find out more about him, his age or his birth. Unfortunately, death records are not digitized after 1914 so I will make a request to the Lithuanian archives and then I will post the certificate here.
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Hi!
Don`t know if this is your Grigoriy Netchaiev but maybe... So Register of births, marriages and deaths in the churches of the Kashirsky district of the Tula province, 1885
GKU of the Moscow Region TsGAMO, fund No. 17I, inventory No. 1, case No. 100, p. 384

Marriage record №1 30.06.1885
Groom - student of the Imperial Moscow University Ignatius Evgeniev Engel (Engil), of the Orthodox faith. First marriage. 27 years.
Bride - Mogilev province of the city of Chaus burgher's daughter Alexandra Danilova Sinyavskaya, of the Orthodox faith. 17 years

Marriage witnesses:
From the side of the groom: City of Kolomna 3 city parochial school teacher Alexander Konstantinov Netchaev and retired Captain Grigory Mikhailov Netchaev. From the side of the bride: Student of the Imperial Moscow University Leopold Lavrentiev Giro and retired non-commissioned officer Osip Stepanov Stepanov



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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя siadeblanc от 9 августа 2023 5:38
Interesting. If I understand correctly, Grigoriy is a witness at a wedding between Alexandra Danilova Sinyavskaya and Ignatius Evgeniev Engel (Engil)?
If so, Alexandra may be a half-sister to Maria Tolstoy. Because Maria's mother is Nedzia Siniavska-Kossova
Alexandra's father is Danil Siniavsky?
On the other hand, Alexander Netchaev says nothing to me at all.
Is it possible to get a direct link into the marriage record ?
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя siadeblanc от 9 августа 2023 5:38

Interesting. If I understand correctly, Grigoriy is a witness at a wedding between Alexandra Danilova Sinyavskaya and Ignatius Evgeniev Engel (Engil)?
If so, Alexandra may be a half-sister to Maria Tolstoy. Because Maria's mother is Nedzia Siniavska-Kossova
Alexandra's father is Danil Siniavsky?
On the other hand, Alexander Netchaev says nothing to me at all.
Is it possible to get a direct link into the marriage record ?
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You got it right. Link below
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...15fd7f/384
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя siadeblanc от 9 августа 2023 14:18

It's really helpful and enlighten! It explains where "Danilovna" of Maria Danilovna Tolstoï come from when Danil Tosltoï does not exist. Marie therefore takes her patronymic from her father-in-law Danil Siniavsky.
Tanks for the link
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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя siadeblanc от 9 августа 2023 14:18

I looked at the link more carefully. It turns out that Grigoriy is married. If I understand correctly, it's written "Григорій Михаиловъ Нечаевъ Пожениху" which gives Grigoriy Mikhailov Netchaev married. So Grigoriy and Maria were married between 1878 and 1885 and I really believe that it is in Mogilev or Tchaoussy that we have to look.
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