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Plato

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Íàâåðõ   ## 18 ÿíâàðÿ 2020 11:07 18 ÿíâàðÿ 2020 12:06
1. Òèèíà Õàðïô (Êåìïïè) https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiina_Harpf

1.1. Uki (Uno Vihtori) Kemppi https://www.geni.com/people/Uuno-Kemppi/6000000074296094875
1.2. Raiku Kemppi (Pennonen) https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiku_Kemppi

1.2.1. Jarno Elisar Pennanen https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarno_Pennanen
1.2.2. Irja Ester Virta

1.2.1.1. Aarne Alarik Orjatsalo (Riddelin) https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aarne_Orjatsalo
1.2.1.2. Ain'Elisabet Pennanen https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%E2%80%99Elisabet_Pennanen

1.2.1.1.1. Karl Alaric Riddelin https://www.geni.com/people/Ka...1043345985
1.2.1.1.2. Anna Aline Braxén https://www.geni.com/people/An...7218575362

1.2.1.1.2.1. Carl Fredrik Braxén https://www.geni.com/people/Ca...7249759808
1.2.1.1.2.2. Augusta Olivia Lundahl https://www.geni.com/people/Au...8347849128

1.2.1.1.2.2.1. Abraham Larss Lundahl https://www.geni.com/people/Ab...0057794326
1.2.1.1.2.2.2. Catharina Charlotta Cajanus https://www.geni.com/people/Ca...2526429611

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1. Anders Gustav Cajanus https://www.geni.com/people/An...0474041492
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.2. Maria Catharina Alcenius https://www.geni.com/people/Ma...0474147504

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1. Gustaf Johan Cajanus https://www.geni.com/people/Gu...0064205132
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.2. Catharina Christina Frosterus https://www.geni.com/people/Ca...8406510313

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1. Petter Gustafsson Cajanus https://www.geni.com/people/Pe...5161540234
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2. Helena Johansdotter Gumse https://www.geni.com/people/Helena-Gumse/6000000015161705044

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.1. Johannes Jacobi Gumse https://kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/henkilo/855
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2. Susanna Israelsdotter Alftan https://www.geni.com/people/Su...7209083270

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1. Israel Eriksson Alftanus https://kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/henkilo/75
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.2. Susanna Filipsdotter Alftanus (Eichman) https://www.geni.com/people/Su...1520380370

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.1. Ericus Erici Alftanus https://kansallisbiografia.fi/paimenmuisto/henkilo/73
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2. Emerentia Tott ? Elin Mårtensdotter Brennera https://agricolaverkko.fi/keskustelu/viewtopic.php?t=1283

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Ïðåäêè æèëè â Áàðå, Êèåâå, Ìîñêâå, Ìîçûðå, ñåëüöå Ìàëèíî Òóëüñêîé ãóá., Åãîðüåâàî Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá., ñåëàõ, ñåëüöàõ è äåð. Òâåðñêîé ãóáåðíèè: Êðàñíîì, Ñëàâêîâî, Áàêëàíîâî, Âîðîáüåâî, Ïîäáåðåçüå, Ïîäúåëüå, Ïðîêóíèíî, Äóáüå, Ïîëÿíà, Ìóðàâèõà, Äóáîâî, Êîëÿêîâî, Áîðèñêîâî, Ãîðáóíîâî, Ïàíòåëååâî, Ðû÷êîâî, Î
Plato
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Plato

Ìèêêåëè, Ôèíëÿíäèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4827
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 18 ÿíâàðÿ 2020 12:46 18 ÿíâàðÿ 2020 16:44
Ïî ïîâîäó Ýìåðåíöèè Òîòò, êîòîðóþ ñâÿùåííèê Èçðàèëü Ýðèêñîí Àëüôòàíóñ (1632-1712), íàçâàë ñâîåé ìàòåðüþ, îêàçûâàåòñÿ áîëüøèå ñïîðû â ôèíñêîé ãåíåàëîãèè: áûëà ëè îíà âíó÷êîé êîðîëÿ Øâåöèè Ýðèêà XIV?

1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.1. Henrik Claesson Tott https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Klasson_Tott
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.2. Princess Sigrid Eriksdotter Vasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...80%931633)


1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1. Claes Åkesson Tott ((Tott)) https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clas_%C3%85kesson_(Tott)
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.2. Kerstin Henriksdotter Horn https://www.geni.com/people/Kerstin-Horn/6000000004010969769
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.2.1. King of Sweden Erik XIV Gustavsson Vasa (Gustavsson) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_XIV_of_Sweden
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.2.2. Karin Månsdotter, Queen Consort of Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_M%C3%A5nsdotter


1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1.1. Åke Claesson (Tott)
1.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.2.2.1.2.1.1.2. Ingeborg Siggesdotter, till Bysta (Sparre)
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Ïðåäêè æèëè â Áàðå, Êèåâå, Ìîñêâå, Ìîçûðå, ñåëüöå Ìàëèíî Òóëüñêîé ãóá., Åãîðüåâàî Ðÿçàíñêîé ãóá., ñåëàõ, ñåëüöàõ è äåð. Òâåðñêîé ãóáåðíèè: Êðàñíîì, Ñëàâêîâî, Áàêëàíîâî, Âîðîáüåâî, Ïîäáåðåçüå, Ïîäúåëüå, Ïðîêóíèíî, Äóáüå, Ïîëÿíà, Ìóðàâèõà, Äóáîâî, Êîëÿêîâî, Áîðèñêîâî, Ãîðáóíîâî, Ïàíòåëååâî, Ðû÷êîâî, Î
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>> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ Plato îò 18 ÿíâàðÿ 2020 12:46

Èòàê, ó ìåíÿ åñòü êîïèè öåðêîâíûõ çàïèñåé, êîòîðûå ïîêàçûâàþò, ÷òî Ýìåðåíöèÿ Òîòò áûëà ìàòåðüþ Èçðàèëÿ Àëüôàíóñà. Â çàïèñÿõ òàêæå ãîâîðèòñÿ, ÷òî Ýðèê Ýðèêóñ Àëüôàíóñ áûë æåíàò 2 ðàçà, à åãî âòîðîé æåíîé áûëà Åëåíà(Ýëèí) Ìàðòåíäîòòåð Áðåííåðóñ. ß òàêæå íàøåë ñóäåáíûå çàïèñè, â êîòîðûõ ãîâîðèòñÿ, ÷òî Ãåíðèê Àëôòàí áûë åå ñòàðøèì ñûíîì, à Èñààê-âòîðûì ïî ñòàðøèíñòâó. Ïî èìåþùèìñÿ ó ìåíÿ ñâåäåíèÿì, ñîãëàñíî öåðêîâíûì çàïèñÿì, Èçðàèëü ðîäèëñÿ â 1632 ãîäó. Ãîâîðÿò òàêæå, ÷òî Ãåíðèê ðîäèëñÿ â 1634 ãîäó. ×òî íå äåëàëî Ãåíðèêà ñòàðøèì ñûíîì. Èòàê, åñëè Ýðèê-ñòàðøèé ñûí Åëåíû, òî êòî æå áûë ìàòåðüþ Èçðàèëÿ Àëôòàíà è Àâðààìà Àëôòàíà, ðîäèâøåãîñÿ â 1630 ãîäó?
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