Èâàíîâû è Îñèïîâû (÷àñòü 2)
Íà÷èíàÿ ñ íîÿáðÿ 2011
nmashÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 6911 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3582 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 20:30 *Ìàðüÿíà* íàïèñàë: [q] Anna Rumiantceva vs. Elia Osipova 282 cM 14 segments
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À ñ êåì ó Ýëè íàèáîëüøåå (êðîìå Àíþòû) ñîâïàäåíèå? È íà êàêèõ õðîìîñîìàõ? Êòî ó íèõ îáùèé èç "ñîâïàäåíöåâ"? ß òàê ðàçäåëÿþ ìàìèíó ëèíèþ (îáùèå ñ Ìàðèíêîé ñîâïàäåíöû) è ïàïèíó (åñëè îáùèõ íåò). --- Íàòàëèÿ. U5a1d2a ˸òîâû (Ðÿç.), Ñóðèêîâû, Áàøèëîâû, Ñóðîâû (Ïîäìîñêîâüå), Ñóááîòèíû, Ñòîëÿðîâû, Àíäðèàíîâû, Äîëæåíêî (Åéñê), Ùåðáèíû (Ïîëòàâ. è Êóáàíü) Íåéãåáàóåð. http://rusgenealogy.clan.su/ Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå òîëüêî äëÿ ãåíåàëîãèè. | | |
nmashÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 6911 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3582 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 20:33 Ìîè ðîäñòâåííèêè Nataliya Mashkova V Assigned kit number: M141417 (ñòàðûé - M092800) ïî ìàìèíîé ëèíèè (ñ Ìàðèíêîé) Ìàðèíêà - Assigned kit number: M101309 1. German Gershom Zhukovsky M783614 0.22% shared, 1 segment German Gershom Zhukovsky vs. Nataliya Mashkova V3 17 cM 1 German Gershom Zhukovsky vs. Marina Borovikova 15 cM 1 German Gershom Zhukovsky vs. Nataliya Mashkova 17 cM 1 Largest segment = 18.8 cM Total of segments > 5 cM = 18.8 cM Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 4.8 M783614 *GGZ 18.8 Family Surnames: Zhukovsky, Nizack, Eremeeva, Smolensky (Smolyanski), both parents have relatives with surname Smolensky (Smolyanski)
Ñ íèì îáùèå åñòü? --- Íàòàëèÿ. U5a1d2a ˸òîâû (Ðÿç.), Ñóðèêîâû, Áàøèëîâû, Ñóðîâû (Ïîäìîñêîâüå), Ñóááîòèíû, Ñòîëÿðîâû, Àíäðèàíîâû, Äîëæåíêî (Åéñê), Ùåðáèíû (Ïîëòàâ. è Êóáàíü) Íåéãåáàóåð. http://rusgenealogy.clan.su/ Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå òîëüêî äëÿ ãåíåàëîãèè. | | |
*Ìàðüÿíà*Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1024 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 292 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 20:51 Íàòàëüÿ, ÿ ïîêà íå óñïåëà çàêà÷àòü íà ãåäìàò÷... Ó ìàìû íà 23 áëèæàéøèé ïîñëå ýëè ðîäñòâåííèê - ôèí ñ 0,22% è ýòî ÿâíî ïî åå îòöó.
Ó ýëè - êàêàÿ-òî äàìà ñ 0,19% íåïîíÿòíî îòêóäà. Òîëêó â ýòîì, ÷åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, íå âèæó. Ñëèøêîì äàëåêîå ðîäñòâî. Ãåðìàíó îòïðàâèëà, íî ÷òî ýòî äàñò? --- H11a2
Èùó:
Ïàíÿðñêèå - âåçäå
Ïîíÿðñêèå-Ìèíö - Ñ.-Ïåòåðáóðã, Ñàðàòîâ
Ðóìÿíöåâû, Ìàëå(è)íêîâû - Âøèâöåâî Êîñòðîìñêîé îáë.
Ðóäåíêî,Ñëóöêèå - Ëóãàíñê,Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê, ñ.Íèêîëüñêîå Êóðñêîé ãóá.
Àëüòøóëåð - Ðèãà, Âèòåáñê, Áûõîâ, Ñàðàòîâ | | |
nmashÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 6911 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3582 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 22:24 Elia Osipova vs. Marina Borovikova 0 cM 0 Elia Osipova vs. Nataliya Mashkova 5 cM 1 Elia Osipova vs. Nataliya Mashkova V3 5 cM 1
Ýòî îçíà÷àåò. ÷òî ðîäñòâî ìîå ñ Ýëåé òîëüêî ïî ëèíèè ìîåãî ïàïû - Êóáàíü-Ïîëòàâà!
Ò.å. ñðàâíèâàòü åå íàäî åùå è ñ ìîèìè ñîâïàäåíöàìè ïî ïàïå- 1. Viktor Ovechkin kit M074237 0.17% shared, 2 segments 2. Debra Bohentin 0.17% shared, 1 segment 3. Joseph Burch 0.14% shared, 1 segment 4. Irina Gurianova M101814 3rd to Distant Cousin 0.15% shared, 2 segments --- Íàòàëèÿ. U5a1d2a ˸òîâû (Ðÿç.), Ñóðèêîâû, Áàøèëîâû, Ñóðîâû (Ïîäìîñêîâüå), Ñóááîòèíû, Ñòîëÿðîâû, Àíäðèàíîâû, Äîëæåíêî (Åéñê), Ùåðáèíû (Ïîëòàâ. è Êóáàíü) Íåéãåáàóåð. http://rusgenealogy.clan.su/ Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå òîëüêî äëÿ ãåíåàëîãèè. | | |
nmashÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 6911 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3582 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 22:25 13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 22:37 *Ìàðüÿíà* íàïèñàë: [q] Ó ìàìû íà 23 áëèæàéøèé ïîñëå ýëè ðîäñòâåííèê - ôèí ñ 0,22% è ýòî ÿâíî ïî åå îòöó.[/q]
À åùå? Êòî ó íåå åùå åñòü? Êòî ÎÁÙÈÉ ñ Ýëåé?? --- Íàòàëèÿ. U5a1d2a ˸òîâû (Ðÿç.), Ñóðèêîâû, Áàøèëîâû, Ñóðîâû (Ïîäìîñêîâüå), Ñóááîòèíû, Ñòîëÿðîâû, Àíäðèàíîâû, Äîëæåíêî (Åéñê), Ùåðáèíû (Ïîëòàâ. è Êóáàíü) Íåéãåáàóåð. http://rusgenealogy.clan.su/ Âñå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ äàííûå òîëüêî äëÿ ãåíåàëîãèè. | | |
*Ìàðüÿíà*Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1024 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 292 | Ââåðõ #13 äåêàáðÿ 2011 22:45 nmash íàïèñàë: [q] Êòî ÎÁÙÈÉ ñ Ýëåé?? [/q]
Íàòàëèÿ, à ÷òî ýòî äàñò? --- H11a2
Èùó:
Ïàíÿðñêèå - âåçäå
Ïîíÿðñêèå-Ìèíö - Ñ.-Ïåòåðáóðã, Ñàðàòîâ
Ðóìÿíöåâû, Ìàëå(è)íêîâû - Âøèâöåâî Êîñòðîìñêîé îáë.
Ðóäåíêî,Ñëóöêèå - Ëóãàíñê,Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê, ñ.Íèêîëüñêîå Êóðñêîé ãóá.
Àëüòøóëåð - Ðèãà, Âèòåáñê, Áûõîâ, Ñàðàòîâ | | |
| dombaisaglara | Ââåðõ #15 äåêàáðÿ 2011 22:59 Ñëóøàéòå, ñåé÷àñ æå âûëîæèëè çàïèñè ÃÀÒÎ íà ñàéòå ìîðìîíîâ, ðàíüøå áûëè áåñïëàòíî, íî ñòàðàíèÿìè ãîñïîæå Åôðåìîâîé ñòàëè ïëàòíî, òàê òàì ìîæíî 5 áàêñîâ çàïëàòèòü è ñàìèì ýòó êíèãó ïîñìîòðåòü, êîòîðóþ ÿ åùå ãîäà 2 íàçàä ñìîòðåë. | | |
| anto Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 6525 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4761 | Ââåðõ #15 äåêàáðÿ 2011 23:04 dombaisaglara íàïèñàë: [q] òàê òàì ìîæíî 5 áàêñîâ çàïëàòèòü è ñàìèì ýòó êíèãó ïîñìîòðåòü, êîòîðóþ ÿ åùå ãîäà 2 íàçàä ñìîòðåë. [/q]
Êîìó è êóäà ìîæíî çàïëàòèòü 5 áàêñîâ çà ïðàâî ïðîñìîòðà òâåðñêèõ ìåòðèê íà ñàéòå ìîðìîíîâ? | | |
| dombaisaglara | Ââåðõ #15 äåêàáðÿ 2011 23:35 | | |
| anto Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 6525 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4761 | Ââåðõ #15 äåêàáðÿ 2011 23:40 dombaisaglara íàïèñàë: [q] https://www.familysearch.org/s...%2F1324417 [/q]
Òóò ðå÷ü ïðî ìèêðîôèëüìû, êîòîðûå â Ðîññèþ íå çàâîçÿò. Âû æå ïèñàëè, ÷òî íà ñàéòå: dombaisaglara íàïèñàë: [q] ñåé÷àñ æå âûëîæèëè çàïèñè ÃÀÒÎ íà ñàéòå ìîðìîíîâ, ðàíüøå áûëè áåñïëàòíî, íî ñòàðàíèÿìè ãîñïîæå Åôðåìîâîé ñòàëè ïëàòíî, òàê òàì ìîæíî 5 áàêñîâ çàïëàòèòü è ñàìèì ýòó êíèãó ïîñìîòðåòü[/q] | | |
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