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25 ôåâðàëÿ 2009 23:00 Ïûòàþñü âûÿñíèòü ñóäüáó ïðàäåäà ìóæà, èñ÷åçíóâøåãî â ãîäû îêêóïàöèè â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå.  ïðîöåññå ïîèñêà áûëè ïîëó÷åíû îòðèöàòåëüíûå îòâåòû èç ÃÀÄÎ. Ïî ñëîâàì åãî äî÷åðè, ïðàäåä ñîäåðæàëñÿ â êîíöëàãåðå íà ñòàíöèè Èãðåíü, à ïîòîì èì ñîîáùèëè, ÷òî åãî óâåçëè. Ñåé÷àñ ÿ íàøëà â Èíåòå âîò òàêóþ èíôîðìàöèþ èç áèîãðàôèè îäíîãî èç óçíèêîâ Ìàóòõàóçåíà. Ñîÿ Àíàòîëèé Ñòàíèñëàâîâè÷ – äî âîéíû îêîí÷èë 6 êëàññîâ ñðåäíåé øêîëû â ã. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå. 16 ìàðòà 1943 ãîäà áûë àðåñòîâàí Ãåñòàïî â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå çà ñàáîòàæ íà ïðèíóäèòåëüíûõ ðàáîòàõ è áûë çàêëþ÷åí â êîíöëàãåðü «Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêàÿ ÿìà». 27 ñåíòÿáðÿ 1943 ãîäà âñå çàêëþ÷åííûå áûëè âûâåçåíû â êîíöëàãåðü «Ìàóòõàóçåí». íà ýòîì ñàéòå http://mauthausen.narod.ru/events/report2003.docÁîëåå ïîäðîáíî áóäó ïèñàòü äàëüøå. Ñàìîå íåîæèäàííîå, ÷òî äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû íàéòè êóäà áûëè óâåçåíû óçíèêè êîíöëàãåðÿ íà ñòàíöèè Èãðåíü â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå, ìíå ïîíàäîáèëîñü âñåãî 2 ÷àñà è ïîòîì åùå 15 ìèí ïîèñêà â Èíåòå, à ïîçàäè îêîëî 65 ëåò ïîïûòîê ïîèñêà ïðàäåäà ñî ñòîðîíû åãî ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, åñòü îñíîâàíèÿ ïîëàãàòü, ÷òî ïðàäåä áûë äåéñòâèòåëüíî âûâåçåí â Ìàóòõàóçåí. ---
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6 ìàðòà 2009 22:32 Ïîëó÷èëà îòðèöàòåëüíûé îòâåò ñ ñàéòà Ìàóòõàóçåíà.
 èõ ñïèñêàõ Áîãàöêèé Ðîìàí ÷èñëèòñÿ 1921 ã ðîæäåíèÿ, èíôîðìàöèè î Áîãàöêîì ÂÐ íåò.
Òàêæå óäàëîñü ñâÿçàòüñÿ ñ ÷åëîâåêîì - Ñîåì Àíàòîëèåì Ñòàíèñëàâîâè÷åì, ðîäèâøåìñÿ â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêå, êîòîðûé ïîäðîñòêîì áûë â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêîì êîíöëàãàðå â 1943 ãîäó, à çàòåì áûë ïåðåâåçåí â Ìàóòõàóçåí.
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, îí íå ïîìíèò òàêîãî ÷åëîâåêà, ò.ê. âìåñòå ñ íèì ñîäåðæàëîñü 1200 ÷åëîâåê, è èõ çàñòàâëÿëè ðàáîòàòü íà èçíîñ - íå äî çíàêîìñòâ áûëî.
Ìåíÿ ïîòðÿñëè åãî ñëîâà î òîì, ÷òî ÷åðåç 2 ÷àñà ïîñëå òîãî, êàê èõ óâåçëè èç Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêà, ñîâåòñêèå âîéñêà âçîðâàëè ìîñò... | | |
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6 ìàðòà 2009 22:33Ответ из ме Dear Mr. Stroynov,
with regard to your enquiry from February 3rd 2008 we regret to inform you that on basis on provided data no indication could be found in the Mauthausen Memorial Archives.
In order to support a successful search we kindly ask you to give us any additional information available, e.g. date and place of birth. Actually, we found one Bogacki Wincenty from Poland (* 3.10.1895) in our archives, but we do not assume that this Bogacki and the person you research for, are congruent. Roman Bogacki, the person you identified in the “Totenbuch” entries on our website was born in 1921, according to the original entries.
We therefore enclose an application form for tracing inquiries.
Furthermore, we recommend to contact the following address:
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The Mauthausen Memorial Archives regret once more that for the time being we are unable to give you a more favourable reply.
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23 ìàðòà 2009 22:14 ýõ, ïîêà íèêàê íå óñïåâàþ ðàçîñëàòü çàïðîñû.
ìóæ óñïåë îòäàòü çàïðîñ â Êðàñíûé êðåñò íà Êóçíåöêîì ìîñòó, ÷òîáû èñêàëè âåçäå ãäå ìîæíî. | | |
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12 ôåâðàëÿ 2010 11:02 12 ôåâðàëÿ 2010 11:11Îòâåò! Ïðèøåë îòâåò èç Êðàñíîãî Êðåñòà ïî ïîâîäó Áîãàöêîãî Âëàäèìèðà Ðîìàíîâè÷à ÓÐÀ!
Ìàëåíüêàÿ íàäåæäà, ÷òî îí âûæèë, èñ÷åçëà. Âïðî÷åì è ïîäòâåðäèëèñü ñëîâà î òîì, ÷òî "ïëåííèêîâ óâåçëè". Âûâåçëè èõ èç Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêà 22 àâãóñòðà 1943 ãîäà â Áóõåíâàëüä.
Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê áûë îñâîáîæäåí ïîëíîñòüþ 25 îêòÿáðÿ 1943 ãîäà ãîðîä áûë îñâîáîæäåí 46-é àðìèåé âî âçàèìîäåéñòâèè ñ 8-é ãâàðäåéñêîé àðìèåé Êðàñíîé Àðìèè.
Äàëåå ïðàäåäà ïåðåâîäèëè èç ëàãåðÿ â ëàãåðü, ãäå îí óìåð â àâãóñòå 1944 ãîäó îò ãàíãðåíû.
Åäèíñòâåííîå, åñòü íåñîâïàäåíèÿ ïî èìåíè æåíû è äåòåé, ò.ê. æåíó çâàëè Ôåäîðà, à äåòåé ê òîìó ìîìåíòó áûëî áîëüøå 2.
Íî ìîæåò áûòü îí ñïåöèàëüíî ñîîáùèë íåäîñòîâåðíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, ÷òîáû èõ íå àðåñòîâàëè çàîäíî
Âíèçó îòâåò.
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11 ôåâðàëÿ 2013 16:03 Ïòèöà Ñèðèí ïðèñëàëà äàííûå ïî ÇÀÃÑó ïî Áàãàöêèì. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ â 1920 ãîäàõ ñïëîøü è ðÿäîì ôàìèëèÿ ïèñàëàñü ÷åðåç À. Òåïåðü ìåíÿ çà ñìóùàëî, ÷òî ó Áàãàöêîãî Ãðèãîðèé ìàòü Íàòàëüÿ, ÷òî ïðîâîäèò ïàðàëëåëü ñ äàííûìè Êðàñíîãî êðåñòà î æåíå Áàãàöêîãî Âëàäèìèðà, ê ñîæàëåíèþ íå óêàçàí åãî îòåö, õîòÿ ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ ñîâñåì íå ñîâïàäàåò ñ ìåñòîì æèòåëüñòâà íàøèõ Áîãàöêèõ. Ïîñëåäíèå 2 çàïèñè êàê ðàç î Âëàäèìèðå è Âàñèëèè Ðîìàíîâè÷å Áàãàöêèõ., â äàííîì ñëó÷àå æåíà Áàãàöêîãî Âëàäèìèðà Ðîìàíîâè÷à óêàçàíà ïðàâèëüíî - Áàãàöêàÿ Ôåîäîðà Óñòèíîâíà.
äåëî 20,îïèñü 7,ôîíä-6508, êíèãà î ñìåðòè 1922ã.
ñòð.465,¹ 1553,¹çàïèñè 912,
Áàãàöêèé Ãðèãîðèé , 23ãîäà, 30 îêòÿáðÿ 1922ã. ã.Åêàòåðèíîñëàâ ÃÏÓ - óìåð.
æèë â Åêàòåðèíîñëàâñêîé ãóáåðèíèè,Íîâîìîñêîâñêîì óåçäå,òîêàðü,ðàññòðåëÿí.ïîãðåá¸í â Åêàòåðèíîñëàâå.
æåíà: Âàñèëèñà Ïåòðîâíà Áàãàöêàÿ.
ìàòü: Íàòàëüÿ Èâàíîâíà Áàãàöêàÿ, .10.ï.Âîðîíöîâà,óë.Ðàáî÷àÿ.
ýòî òî,÷òî êàñàåòñÿ ðàññòðåëÿííûõ.
à ýòî çàïèñè î ðîæäåíèè:
ä.72,ðîæäåíèå 1929ã.
ñòð.463,¹ 70. çàïèñü 11àïðåëÿ 1929ã. ñâèä. 20. 10.1944ã.
Áàãàöêàÿ Íàñòÿ, 6 àïðåëÿ 1929ã.
Ìàíóéëîâêà,óë.Ê.Ìàðêñîâñêàÿ,Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêèé ðàéîí.
îòåö: Áàãàöêèé Âàñèëèé Ðîìàíîâè÷,
ìàòü: Áàãàöêàÿ Åêàòåðèíà Ãðèãîðüåâíà.
ñòð. 464,¹80,23 àïðåëÿ 1929ã.
Áàãàöêàÿ íèíà, 20 àïðåëÿ 1929ã.
Ìàíóéëîâêà, Ê.Ìàðêñîâñêàÿ,Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêèé ð-í,
Áàãàöêèé Âëàäèìèð Ðîìàíîâè÷,
Áàãàöêàÿ Ôåîäîðà Óñòèíîâíà.
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20 ìàÿ 2021 23:17 Áëàãîäàðÿ ðàçìåùåíèþ â Èíòåðíåòå ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèã, ïîãðóçèëàñü â Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê 19 âåêà ïî ëèíèè äåäà ìóæà Áîãàöêîãî Ãðèãîðèÿ Âëàäèìèðîâè÷à. Íàéäåíû ñâåäåíèÿ î áðàêå åãî ðîäèòåëåé Âëàäèìèðà Ðîìàíîâè÷ è Ôåîäîðâ Óñòèíîâíû â 1913 ãîäó., åãî ðîæäåíèè Ã.Â.â 1914, íî íå 6 îêòÿáðÿ, à 27 ñåíòÿáðÿ.
íàéäåíû äàííûå î ðîäèòåëÿõ åãî ìàòåðè Ôåäîðû Óñòèíîâíû Ðèçîëü, 1893 ãîäà. Îòåö Óñòèí Äàâèäîâ Ðèçîëü, ìàòü Àííà Âàñèëüåâíà Öûïë¸íêîâà. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ å¸ ôàìèëèÿ â çàïèñè î áðàêå î÷åíü íå÷åòêî íàïèñàíî.
Çàïèñè ÷èòàòü î÷åíü òÿæåëî. Äåòè óìèðàëè â ëþáîì âîçðàñòå îò âñåâîçìîæíûõ áîëåçíåé, êîòîðûå ñåé÷àñ íå ñòðàøíû èç çà ïðèâèâîê.
Ïî íåñêîëüêó äåòåé â îäèí ìåñÿö â îäíîé ñåìüå.
Áàáóøêà ìîåé ñâåêðîâè Ôåîäîðà Óñòèíîâíà áûëà ïîñëåäíèì è åäèíñòâåííî âûæèâøèì ðåá¸íêîì ó ðîäèòåëåé ñ 1875 ïî 1893 ãîäû è îñòàëàñü ñèðîòîé â 1 ãîä..Ìåòðèêó î ñìåðòè å¸ îòöà, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íå íàøëà åù¸.
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8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 10:43 Äàâíî íå ïèñàëà, íî ðåøèëà ñäåëàòü çàìåòêó.
Ïîèñêè î ñóäüáå Áîãàöêîãî Âëàäèìèðà Ðîìàíîâè÷ âåðíóëèñü ê íóëþ ñïóñòÿ 13 ëåò ìîèõ äåòàëüíûõ çàíÿòèé ãåíåàëîãèåé.
 ýòîì ãîäó ìíå óäàëîñü áëàãîäàðÿ èíôîðìàöèè ñ ôîðóìà ïðîñìîòðåòü ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè ñåëà Ìàíóéëîâêà çà 1875-1919 ãîäû. Ýòî áîëüøàÿ ðàäîñòü è âñåìè ñëîâàìè íå îïèñàòü, êîãäà â ìàðòå ÿ íàëüþ îöèôðîâàííûé àðõèâ ,ó÷èòûâàÿ ÷òî ïî Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêó àðõèâû óòåðÿíû íà 90%. Òàê âîò óäàëîñü ïîïàñòü â ñ÷àñòëèâûå 10%. ---
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8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 10:44 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 11:17 Î÷åíü ìíîãî íàøëà ïðî áðàòüåâ è ñåñò¸ð ïðàäåäà è ïðàáàáóøêè ìóæà.
Íî îäíîâðåìåííî, âûÿñíèëîñü, ÷òî ó ïðàäåäà Âëàäèìèðà Ðîìàíîâè÷ Áîãàöêîãî , 1893 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿáûë ðîäñòâåííèê èëè îäíîôàìèëåö, æèâøèé íà òîé æå óëèöå Ãðèí÷åíêî Âëàäèìèð Èîàêèìîâè÷ Áîãàöêèé, òðåìÿ ãîäàìè ìëàäøå. , 1896 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, íàøëàñü è çàïèñü î åãî âåí÷àíèè ñ Íàòàëüåé Êðàâ÷åíêî.
Òàê ÷òî ýòî îêàçàëîñü 2 ðàçíûõ ÷åëîâåêà.
Èç ýòèõ äàííûõ ñòàëî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî Êîàñåûé Êðåñò ïðåäîñòàâèë äàííûå íà ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà, à íå íàøåãî ïðàäåäà.
Âåðíóëèñü ê íóëåâîé òî÷êå î ñóäüáå ïðàäåäà ---
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