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toryc — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 21:45:10 +0300

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I tried searching for alternate spellings but had zero results.
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Germanized endings like "...off" or "..jeff" were common at the beginning of XX century. So for the time period that we are discussing you should get more hits using it. The more accurate "..ov", "..ev" or "..yev" became popular later.
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According to Finnish police records (they kept a file on Sofia/Alma over the years due to her Russian ties), her second husband's name was Efim/Jefim Vladimirovitsch Sergejeff, born 25 Mar 1890 in Russia. There is conflicting information in the reports. His death is listed as December 18,1917 while there is also a note that he was a cossack officer and was captured in 1920 in St. Petersburg, sent to Arkangel and probably executed there (by bolsheviks). Further still, there is a note that she wrote to his sister, Anastasia Vladimirovna Sergeffia, in "Novotsherkassk, Staro Zagorodnaya" in 1923 saying she was waiting for him to come to Finland and mentioned his rank of 'lieutenant colonel or voiskovoj starshina in the Cossack forces"

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VC — Wed, 27 May 2020 23:49:46 +0300

toryc ��:

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I tried searching for alternate spellings but had zero results.
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Germanized endings like "...off" or "..jeff" were common at the beginning of XX century. So for the time period that we are discussing you should get more hits using it. The more accurate "..ov", "..ev" or "..yev" became popular later.

toryc — Wed, 27 May 2020 23:25:13 +0300

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So perhaps the photo is her husband, just not the husband we thought he was ...
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It's possible. There is one Sergeev (��) listed among officers of the 428th regiment but unfortunately the doc contains last names only. It's a very common last name so it will be hard to figure out who this guy is.
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Thanks! I'll see what I can find with that variation. I tried searching for alternate spellings but had zero results.

VC — Wed, 27 May 2020 23:11:01 +0300

toryc ��:

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So perhaps the photo is her husband, just not the husband we thought he was ...
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It's possible. There is one Sergeev (��) listed among officers of the 428th regiment but unfortunately the doc contains last names only. It's a very common last name so it will be hard to figure out who this guy is.

toryc — Sun, 24 May 2020 22:55:50 +0300

>> �� [note=VC] �� 21 �� 2020 20:11

Just found out that Alma remarried! To an EW Sergejeff, listed here https: //digi.kansalliskirjasto ...? Page = 1140 as a fänrik / second lieutenant.

By 1924 (there are no records of them 1918-1923) she was back in Helsinki, listed as a widow again.

So perhaps the photo is her husband, just not the husband we thought he was ...

toryc — Thu, 21 May 2020 23:23:34 +0300

>> �� [note=VC] �� 21 �� 2020 20:11

Thank you. Based on my own research, I didn't think there was any weight to the Cossack references either. I just wanted to be able to confirm that the story was debunked so thanks for that! My aunt just couldn't believe that my grandmother was so wrong, especially since she was so close with her own aunts who would have been Mikael's daughters and with her grandmother. I couldn't figure out where the Cossack story came from either, it was just being passed down by word of mouth with nothing to back it up. But my grandmother herself didn't like to discuss the family history, so my aunt just had to scribble down notes as fast as she could when she could get my grandmother speaking. I'm going to go with your suggestion of the word Cossack being used interchangeably with Russian.

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Yes, seems to be a brother. The question is only whether he is also the officer and the engineer who arrived to US. It's tempting to connect them - returned to Russia, finished military engineering school and worked as an civilian engineer later. But both last and the first names are not rare and it's hard to say for sure.
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I believe the birthdays/ages match so it seems likely, but really, just in the "official" records I've seen throughout my genealogy searches, the birthdays listed seem to be somewhat inconsistent, especially for Mikael's daughters so who's to say for sure.

You have been very helpful and I really appreciate the time you've taken to help get this information sorted so thank you!

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