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<title>Looking For A Marriage Record</title>
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<description>Looking for records in Vinnytsia, Ukraine</description>
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<description>  &lt;br&gt;TLD110166 написал:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="height:1px;width:1px;overflow:hidden"&gt;[q]&lt;/div&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 3 марта 2023 19:29&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you happen to know if they&amp;#039;re indexed?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div style="height:1px;width:1px;overflow:hidden"&gt;[/q]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If by "indexed&amp;#039; you mean a reference list of names and subjects then hardly they have any for the church records.&lt;br&gt;The archives here in the post-Soviets will hardly really read through every church metrical book for the names))&lt;br&gt;But you can contact them via the email or you can ask here: &lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://forum.vgd.ru/1472/8426/1640.htm?a=stdforum_view&amp;amp;o=" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://forum.vgd.ru/1472/8426...iew&amp;amp;o=&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also in the top section of every archive thread there&amp;#039;s a list of users planning to go to the archive soon&lt;br&gt;It goes after: &amp;#039;В ближайшее время посетят этот архив:&amp;#039;&lt;br&gt;They may be of help  </description>
<dc:creator>OlgaKob</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 16:10:13 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ответ на &lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://forum.vgd.ru/33/140838/p4467847.htm#pp4467847"&gt;сообщение&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt; пользователя [note=OlgaKob] от 3 марта 2023 19:29&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The family was Russian Orthodox &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  </description>
<dc:creator>TLD110166</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 01:58:54 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Ответ на &lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://forum.vgd.ru/33/140838/p4467847.htm#pp4467847"&gt;сообщение&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt; пользователя [note=OlgaKob] от 3 марта 2023 19:29&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you happen to know if they&amp;#039;re indexed?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  </description>
<dc:creator>TLD110166</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 01:57:49 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  Also, the last name may have variations: Klossovsky (Клоссовский), Klosovsky (Клосовский), alongside Класовский (Классовский).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  </description>
<dc:creator>OlgaKob</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 21:34:20 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  Just in case, there are some &lt;b&gt;Russian Orthodox&lt;/b&gt; metrics for Tulchin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vinitsa archive&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fonds 904 series 35 (фонд 904 опись 35)&lt;br&gt;The Podolia Eparchy (Подольская епархия)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Свято-Успенська церква м. Тульчин Брацлавського повіту Подільської&lt;br&gt;(Assumption of Mary church of the borough of Tulchin)&lt;br&gt;1885-1889 -  file 133&lt;br&gt;1904- f 246&lt;br&gt;1905 -  f 250&lt;br&gt;1906 - f 254&lt;br&gt;1907 - f 258&lt;br&gt;1908 f 262&lt;br&gt;1909 - file 264 (births), 266 (nuptials)&lt;br&gt;1911 - file 272&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Церква Різдва Христового м. Тульчин Брацлавського повіту&lt;br&gt;(Baptism Church of Tulchin)&lt;br&gt;1886-1889 - f 146&lt;br&gt;no nuptials of the researched years&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are some Orthodox metrics for Tulchin in the Archive of Hmelnitsky oblast &lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://dahmo.gov.ua/" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://dahmo.gov.ua/&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://disk.yandex.ru/d/W6siLHdfUAExYg" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://disk.yandex.ru/d/W6siLHdfUAExYg&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;fonds 315 series 1&lt;br&gt;Подольская духовная консистория &lt;br&gt;(The Podolia clerical consistory)&lt;br&gt;1888 -  file 12393&lt;br&gt;1908-feb 1909 - 12715&lt;br&gt;1909 -  files: 12729&lt;br&gt;1911 - 12753? 12750 (only january)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  </description>
<dc:creator>OlgaKob</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 19:43:18 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  Hello! As I understand from your posts, Klassovsky is Sophia&amp;#039;s maiden name?&lt;br&gt;Was she Roman Catholic? Or was she Russian Orthodox?&lt;br&gt;Her mother&amp;#039;s name. Petruna, I guess it should be Petronilla or Petronia, which is after a Roman Catholic saint.&lt;br&gt;Klassovsky is found amongst Polish szlachta from the Rola coat-of-arms. So may be Catholic. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tulchin was a town in the Bratslav district (Брацлавский уезд), Podolia governorate (Подольская губерния).&lt;br&gt;Vapniarka, according to Wikipedia, was founded around the 1870s as a railway station. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&amp;#039;s what I&amp;#039;ve managed to find:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vinitsa state archive&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;Fonds (фонд) 904 - Metrical books &lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;Roman Catholic parishes:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gaisin-Bratslav diaconate (Гайсинсько-Брацлавський деканат)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Roman Catholic church of the village of Kopiivka of Bratslav district (Римсько-католицька церква Непорочного Зачаття Пресвятої Богородиці с. Копіївка Брацлавського повіту Подільської губернії)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1904 - series (опись/опис) 11 file (дело/справа) 11&lt;br&gt;1905 - s. 11 f. 15&lt;br&gt;1906 s. 11 f 20&lt;br&gt;1907 s 11 f 25&lt;br&gt;1908 s 11 f 30&lt;br&gt;1909  s 11 f 35&lt;br&gt;1911 s 11 f 45&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Roman Catholic church of St Stanislaw of the borough (mestechko) of Tulchin (Римсько-католицька церква Святого Станіслава м-ка Тульчин  Брацлавського повіту Подільської губернії)&lt;br&gt;1888 - series 5 file 9&lt;br&gt;1889 -  s 3 f 1&lt;br&gt;1904 - s 11 f 11&lt;br&gt;1905 - s 11 f 15&lt;br&gt;1906 -  s 11 f 20&lt;br&gt;1907 s 11 f 25&lt;br&gt;1908 s 11 f 30&lt;br&gt;1909 s 11 f 35&lt;br&gt;(the same files as the previous church, different metric books in the file)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br&gt; (Yampilsky diaconate (Ямпільський деканат) &lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the Vapniarka station (станция Вапнярка) &lt;br&gt;Roman Catholic church of Virgin Mary of Tomashpil borough (Римсько-католицька церква Пресвятої Богородиці Шкаплерної м-ка Томашпіль Ямпільського повіту Подільської губернії)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1888 -  series 10 file 10&lt;br&gt;1889 s 10 f 11&lt;br&gt;1904 s 11 f 9&lt;br&gt;1905 s 11 f 18&lt;br&gt;1906 s 11 f 23&lt;br&gt;1907 s 11 f 28&lt;br&gt;1908 s 11 f 33&lt;br&gt;1909 - s 11 f 38&lt;br&gt;1911 s 11 f 48&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here&amp;#039;s the catalog of the metrical books from the Vinitsa archive (in Ukrainian):&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://davio.gov.ua/pub/book/davio-mk-2012.pdf" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://davio.gov.ua/pub/book/davio-mk-2012.pdf&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s/601976234888437761/7GV3nONM8jaNb1pFlR1ItgmuRTECQktN-LrDAJ4imWgg_" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s...DAJ4imWgg_&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://davio.gov.ua/page/elektronniy_arhiv" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://davio.gov.ua/page/elektronniy_arhiv&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The pre-Soviet period fonds (Фонди дорадянського періоду)&lt;br&gt;Th catalog&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s/600562020850376707/z56-D5Vr0IifreA06XsQwtLh76L0s3fK-G7wA.rapWgg_#file_id=601979549833539006" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s...9833539006&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some files: &lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s/601850164686135543/HilseGDQ3uBlFHFLxGSBuJhFaveRF0GR-TLbAKK12Wwg_" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;http://91.218.88.140:60649/d/s...bAKK12Wwg_&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some terms in Ukrainian:&lt;br&gt;фонд - fonds&lt;br&gt;опис - series&lt;br&gt;справа - file (дело - in Russian archives)&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;sections of the metrical books &lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;Народження - birth/baptism&lt;br&gt;шлюб - nuptials/wedding&lt;br&gt;смерть - death&lt;br&gt;...................&lt;br&gt;I&amp;#039;ve checked the uploaded files of the fonds 904 and it doesn&amp;#039;t seem to have the right files there. Unfortunately, they&amp;#039;ve uploaded just a few. So you&amp;#039;ll need to contact the archives. &lt;br&gt;archive_vn@arch.gov.ua&lt;br&gt;&lt;script type='text/javascript'&gt;document.write('&lt;a href="https://davio.gov.ua/page/kontakti" rel="noopener" target=_blank&gt;https://davio.gov.ua/page/kontakti&lt;/a&gt;');&lt;/script&gt;  </description>
<dc:creator>OlgaKob</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2023 19:29:04 +0300</pubDate>
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<description>  I&amp;#039;m looking for the marriage record of Sophia Mikhailovna Klassovsky. She was born in Feb or Sept 1888, or Feb 1889, in what is now Tulchyn, Vinnytsia, Ukraine, and her 1st child was born in April 1909 in Vapniarka, Vinnytsia, Ukraine, so she would most likely have gotten married between 1904 and 1908. I have never been able to find any records for the family outside the US. (Sometimes I think Sophia herself didn&amp;#039;t even know exactly when she was born. She had a sister named Nadejda, who married Alexander Olshevsky)&lt;br&gt; &lt;img  height="23" width="30"  src="https://forum.vgd.ru/smiles/smile_030.gif" align="top" alt=":doof:" loading="lazy"&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Her 1st child was a son, and was born in April 1909 in Vapniarka, Vinnytsia, Ukraine&lt;br&gt;Her 2nd child was a daughter, and was born in April 1911 in Zhmerynka, Vinnytsia, Ukraine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dates and places of birth for all 3 are from Sophia&amp;#039;s US naturalization paperwork.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Before anyone contacts me, asking me to pay for them to look for the information, I&amp;#039;m on a fixed income, and can&amp;#039;t afford to pay anyone to do so, so don&amp;#039;t even bother asking.  </description>
<dc:creator>TLD110166</dc:creator>
<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 05:53:09 +0300</pubDate>
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