Suche nach Informationen über Heinrich Hoyer /Zarskoje Celo

robinhoodhh — Tue, 29 Sep 2020 01:58:54 +0300

anto ��:

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robinhoodhh schrieb:
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aber ich fürchte, das ist nicht der richtige Heinrich Hoyer (der Name ist auch auf Deutsch durchaus üblich ....).
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Aber in Russland in Sankt Petersburg gab es zu dieser Zeit nicht viele Personen mit dem Namen Heinrich Hoyer. Ich sehe außer Heinrich (Ludwig) Hoyer nur Heinrich Leopold Hoyer, geboren 1815, verheiratet 1845. Vielleicht war er der Vater von Therese Elisabeth Hoyer (Teresa Andreevna Goyer)?
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I think Therese is not related to "my" Heinrich Hoyer. Keep in mind the two births from the second marriage. They take place in 1848 and 1850 AND all briths are registered according to the churchbook as taken place in Semjonow, far away from St. Petersburg where Heinrich Hoyer was serving at that time.

The main problem I found over the years of searching is: The German name "Hoyer" can also be spelled "Heuer", "Hoier" or "Hojer" and the Russian translation varies between "��", "��", "��", or "��"...... this makes it really painful to translate back a found name from Russian to German.......you never know whats the original German spelling

The line I am researching seams to start with the Russian name "��" and later switched to "��" (according to addressbook entries from St. Petersburg).

anto — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:58:38 +0300

robinhoodhh ��:

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but I am afraid this is not the right Heinrich Hoyer (the name is also quite common in German....).
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But in Russia in Saint-Petersburg there were not many persons with the name Heinrich Hoyer at that time. I see except Heinrich (Ludwig) Hoyer only Heinrich Leopold Hoyer, born in 1815, married in 1845. Maybe he was the father of Therese Elisabeth Hoyer (Teresa Andreevna Goyer) ?

robinhoodhh — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:45:10 +0300

@valcha:

Sie wollten mehr Informationen über dieses Regiment wissen!
Schöne Abende

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.....and I will enjoy them a lot !
- its cold outside
- have some tea
- something historical to read
- and a lot more questions after reading

Thats what makes such research interesting in my mind !
And maybe my Russian will improve a little

Regards
Alex

robinhoodhh — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 13:39:56 +0300

anto ��:

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Alle diese Einträge in geni.com wurden von mir erstellt.
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War Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer der Vater von Therese Elisabeth Hoyer (Teresa Andreevna Goyer) oder nicht?
Sie wurde 1849 geboren, ihr Vater war Heinrich Hoyer, sie lebte mit ihrem Ehemann in Sankt Petersburg - aber war es Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer oder ein anderer Heinrich Hoyer - ich weiß es nicht.
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Hello Anto,

thanks for this information, but I am afraid this is not the right Heinrich Hoyer (the name is also quite common in German....).

The genealogical line goes like this:

Heinrich (Ludwig) Hoyer, born 1799 at Hanover, Germany
Worked as "��" at .��-�� between 1834-1850 (estimated)

1. Marriage: Carolina Rosalia Schumacher (marriage must have taken place before 1834)
1.1 Child: Mathilde Caroline Hoyer, 1834�1840 born 24 NOV 1834 � Zarskoe-Selo, Russia, death 20 JUL 1840 � Zarskoje-Selo (all data from churchbooks evan.-luth. Zarskoje-Selo)
1.2 Child: Bertha Catharina Hoyer, 1839� ???, birth 23 DEC 1839 � Zarskoje Selo, death: unknown

2. Marriage: Louise Friedrike Bernhardine (von) Both, 1822� ????, birth 29 JAN. 1822 � Hanover.Germany
2.1 Child: Alexandra Friederike Hoyer, 1848� ???, birth 17 JAN 1848 � Semjonow, Oblast, Nischni Nowgorod, Nizhniy Novgorod, Russland, death unknown, bapzized evan.-luth. churchbook of Pawlowsk, 12 Jun 1850
2.2 Child: Eduard Peter Johann Hoyer, 1850�1888, birth 25 MAY 1850 � Semjonow, Oblast, Nischni Nowgorod, Nizhniy Novgorod, Russia, death 02 OCT 1888 � Saint Petersburg, Russia, baptized same date as 2.1.

Thats all I have found during the last 10 years, so every single information will be helpful to go on.

Regards
Alex

valcha — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:07:49 +0300

robinhoodhh ��:

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I think I will spent the next evenings with reading.......
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robinhoodhh ��:

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I would be interested which regiment could be meant and if there are any sources for this regiment (e.g. chronic of regiment / lists of officers / soldiers etc.)
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You wanted to know more information about this regiment!
A nice evenings

anto — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:45:50 +0300

robinhoodhh ��:

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all of these entries in geni.com are created by me.
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Was Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer the father of Therese Elisabeth Hoyer (�� ) or not?
She was born in 1849, her father was Heinrich Hoyer, she lived with husband in Saint-Petersburg - but was it Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer or another Heinrich Hoyer - I do not know.

robinhoodhh — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:23:52 +0300

tatvos ��:

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Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer

Eduard Peter Johann Heinrich von Hoyer

Alexandra Friederike Hoyer
https: // www.geni.com/people/Al...2594252997
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tatvos, thanks for your information, but all of these entries in geni.com are created by me.

Regards
Alex

robinhoodhh — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:21:57 +0300

>> �� [note=valcha] �� 26 �� 2020 18:56

Valcha, thanks again for your support.
I think I will spent the next evenings with reading.......

Regards
Alex

tatvos — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:57:39 +0300

Heinrich Ludwig Hoyer

Eduard Peter Johann Heinrich von Hoyer

Alexandra Friederike Hoyer

valcha — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:56:03 +0300

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