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Goodnight!
After almost 1 year of researching I got some more information about my great-grandfather! It was difficult but very rewarding! I think I'm getting closer and closer to knowing where he really came from. Anyway, after a lot of research I found the following information:
- He arrived on October 10, 1908 in Buenos Aires, Argentina with the ship AVON, which departed from the city of Southampton, England;
-Only in 1912 he left Buenos Aires and went to Brazil, where he landed in Rio de Janeiro.
The AVON vessel that departed from Southampton made stops in Porto (Portugal), Madeira Island, Rio de Janeiro and Santos (Brazil), Montevideo (Uruguay) and Buenos Aires (Argentina). Through an Argentine website called "SEMLA" I performed a search and changed his first and last name and thus managed to find his record, which is written as follows:
ALEXIS BROSLAWIS, Russian, farmer, literate, Avon ship, Southampton origin.
I haven't found anything on this ship's departure list yet. But I would like to ask for help with information about the port of Southampton. Could someone tell me from which places in Europe (Russia, Germany, Poland or another country) ships departed for Southampton? As he arrived in Buenos Aires on October 10, 1908, I believe he departed from Southampton around the third week of September 1908. If I find any information about any port in Europe where ships departed for Southampton in 1908 , I believe I can find some more record of my great-grandfather and thus try to complete his inverse path.

Geo Z — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:47:06 +0300

It's very hard to find if You don't know exact place.
Is only one way, You must check all places where that name or similare can find.
And very hard, because name could be recorded with mistake.

AfonsoJunior — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 22:01:03 +0300

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AfonsoJunior escreveu:
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Nessa idade, na Rússia, que tipo de documento ele poderia ter? Identidade, passaporte, ele poderia votar?
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Você precisa de um livro métrico da igreja onde e quando ele foi batizado.
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Unfortunately, I don't know the exact birthplace of my great-grandfather. This is the information I'm looking for. So far, here in Brazil, everything I found about him says "native of Russia". My searches are blocked due to lack of information. People who could tell me something have already died. But I will not give up.

Geo Z — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 20:27:56 +0300

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At this age, in Russia, what kind of document could he have? Identity, passport, could he vote?
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You need a metrical book of church where and when he was christened.

AfonsoJunior — Sat, 25 Apr 2020 19:23:04 +0300

Hello!
I managed to discover my great-grandfather's date of birth, which is written on his grave in the cemetery. From what I have discovered so far, I suppose he arrived in Brazil between 1909 and 1912. He married a Russian here in 1912, and Russian immigration in the city he lived in began in 1909. That is, he would have between 27 and 28 years old when he emigrated to Brazil. At this age, in Russia, what kind of document could he have? Identity, passport, could he vote?
Or even some enlistment from the army?

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Ivan Samtsevich — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:57:37 +0300

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Could someone "translate" your name and surname into the Latin alphabet?
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Your great-grandfather seemed to have been making the first steps in writing Latin letters at the time , because the signature is actually a mixture of the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets 'Alxandro Broslovenc'.
It's remarkable that the other names and surnames look like Ukrainian:
Max Gritsenco (�� ), Parasca Sepanhenco(?) (�� (?)), Leonty Tcatch (�� ).

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AfonsoJunior — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 03:51:47 +0300

I found this signature of my great-grandfather where he witnessed a wedding in the locality he lived in Brazil, Campina das Missões. Could someone "translate" your name and surname into the Latin alphabet? I confess that some letters do not understand, because I imagine that my great grandfather wrote some letters in the Latin alphabet but others in the Cyrillic alphabet. That way I can know for sure your first and last name, which has so many variations.

Ivan Samtsevich — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 00:13:47 +0300

Alfonso, the surname Braslawets was widespread in many regions of the former Russian Empire. For example you may type "��" in line "��" and you can see it yourself. I would even say the surname was too widespread to find your ancestor's roots without preliminary research in Brazil.
Thus, just knowing his name and surname and the date of birth + names of his parents you will never find his roots (unless anybody does research on this family). The only way to trace your family history is to study carefully his first years of life in Brazil. For example, he must have been registered in local police or checked in when he arrived in Brazil. It is sensible to search information in Russian (or Ukrainian or Kazakhstan or God knows where) archives only when you find out which region of the Russian Empire your ancestor came from.
By the way, Alex's mother's name was Eudokia or '��' in Russian

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