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Ðàçûñêèâàþ òåõ, ÷üè ïðåäêè ïðîæèâàëè â Âèçåíôåëüäå(Wiesenfeld) Ýðëåíáàõñêîãî(Êàìåíñêîãî) êàíòîíà Ðåñïóáëèêè Íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ. Âñåì, êòî èñêðåííå çàíÿò ïîèñêîì âñåãî ÷òî ñâÿçàíî ñ Íåì. Ïîâîëæüåì, ïîìîãó ÷åì îáëàäàþ! Ãëàâíûå âåòâè Äðåâà Áëåì, Ëàíã, Âèíòåð, Îáëåíäåð, Ìàéåð. Åùå ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ ñïèñêè íåì. ôàìèëèé âñòðå÷àþùèõñÿ â ìîåì ðîäîñëîâíîì äðåâå. Î íåêîòîðûõ èçâåñòíà òîëüêî ôàìèëèÿ, î äðóãèõ áîëüøå â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñòåïåíè ðîäñòâà. Àéçåí, Áåêêåð, Áîðãäîðô, Áðàóí, Áðåíêìàí, Âàçåìèëëåð, Âàíäëåð, Âåêåññåð, Âîëüô, Ãààê, Ãàëëåð, Ãàóê, Ãåáåëü, Ãåìáóõ, Ãåíòëåð, Ãåõò, Ãîðèõ, Ãðàóáåðãåð, Ãðîññ, Ãóáåð, Ãóäøìèäò, Äåðìåð, Åññå, Çîìåðôåëüä, Èîñ, Êàéëü, Êåéá, Êîðï, Êèëüõ, Êèïïåñ, Êëåìïôåð, Êîîï, Êðàóáåðã, Ëàóáãàí, Ëåíåøìèäò, Ëåéíâåáåð, Ëèòàó, Ìàðòåëü, Ìàòóñ, Ìåðê, Ìèëëåð, Íîéìàí, Îáåðäîðôåð, Ïàóëü, Ïèíåêåð, Ðàéö, Ðàóõ, Ðåéòåð, Ðèáåëü, Ðîëüãîéçåð, Ñóïïåñ, Òàóáåðò, Òåâñ, Òèññåí, Ôðåéìàí, Ôðèöëåð, Õàéíáèõíåð, Õèëüäåðìàí, Öâåöèõ, Öèãëåð, Øàéáåëü, Øàóýð, Øâàðö, Øååë, Øåôíåð, Øèåíôåëüä, Øèëüáåðò, Øëîòõàâð, Øíàéäåð, Øíàéäò, Øíåéäåð, Øòàéìåö, Øòàéíãàóýð, Øòàíã, Øòèáåí, Øòðåáåëü, Øòðèêåð, Øòóìïô, Øóòö, Ùóëüö, Ýãîâ, Ýêøòàéí, ßêîáè, ßíöåí. Ñ óâàæåíèåì, David | | |
Leontiya ×àñòíûé ñïåöèàëèñòÏÎÌÎÙÜ Â ÀÐÕÈÂÀÕ, ÁÈÁËÈÎÒÅÊÀÕ ÏÅÒÅÐÁÓÐÃÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 10585 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9565 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 èþëÿ 2025 12:29 Lidia71Ñåìüÿ ÁÈÍ æèëà â êàêîìó-òî êîíêðåòíîì ñåëåíèè, íàäî ïîëàãàòü? | | |
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19 èþëÿ 2025 12:54 Lidia71 íàïèñàë: [q] èíôîðìàöèÿ î ñåìüå Áèí[/q]
Adam Bien *Müs, Landkreis Fulda, Hessen, Deutschland Adam Bien * 1798 Großenlüder + 1849 Husen Andreas Bien * 1924 + 1991 Dietersburg Anna Bernardina Bien * 1895 Husen August Bien * 1905 Niederbieber, Neuwied, Emil Bien * 1899 Tattenitz Eva Catharina Bien * 1724 Flinsbach, Deutschland Hans Peter Bien * 1682 Flinsbach, Deutschland Johann Bien * 1830 Tattenitz --- Arnbrecht, Behringer, Böhm, Büchert, Claus (Klaus), Diel, Dingens, Dörr (Derr), Döring, Eigster, Eisner, Ernst, Fischer, Frank, Gallowa, Göbel, Habermann, Heck, Henkel, Hippe, Kempel, Knaus, Kunzmann, Landmann, Leichner, Lohle, Luft, Meng, Micheilis, Michel | | |
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Leontiya, îíè ïðîæèâàëè â ñ. Òîíêîøóðîâêà, Òîíêîøóðîâñêîé âîëîñòè, Íîâîóçåíñêîãî óåçäà, Ñàìàðñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Ïûòàþñü íàéòè â ôîðóìàõ è äðóãèõ èñòî÷íèêàõ êàêèå òî ñâåäåíèÿ, íî î÷åíü ìàëî ïî ýòîé ôàìèëèè ÷òî òî ìîæíî íàéòè. | | |
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Adam Bien *Müs, Landkreis Fulda, Hessen, Deutschland Adam Bien * 1798 Großenlüder + 1849 Husen Andreas Bien * 1924 + 1991 Dietersburg Anna Bernardina Bien * 1895 Husen August Bien * 1905 Niederbieber, Neuwied, Emil Bien * 1899 Tattenitz Eva Catharina Bien * 1724 Flinsbach, Deutschland Hans Peter Bien * 1682 Flinsbach, Deutschland Johann Bien * 1830 Tattenitz[/q]
[/q] WaldemarKeer, ñïàñèáî, ÷òî îòîçâàëèñü, íî ýòî íå "ìîè". Âèäèìî, íå íàñòîëüêî ðåäêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ! | | |
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19 èþëÿ 2025 19:28 Çäðàâñòâóéòå. èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ìîåì ïðàäåäå Ãåíðèõ Èâàíîâè÷ (Îòòîâè÷) Êåëåð, êðåñòüÿíèí ñåëà Ãîëûé Êàðàìûø Ñîñíîâñêîé âîëîñòè 1879 ã ðîæäåíèÿ, ñóäÿ ïî ìåòðè÷åñêîé çàïèñè î ðîæäåíèè åãî äî÷åðè Íèíû 13 èþëÿ 1914 ã â ñåëå Àëåêñååâêà Õâàëûíñêîãî óåçäà. âîåâàë â Ïîðò-Àðòóðå â ðóñ-ÿïîíñêóþ âîéíó ïåðååõàë â Ãðîçíûé ñ 1925 ãîäà, âîçìîæíî, ðàíüøå
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19 èþëÿ 2025 20:12 19 èþëÿ 2025 21:43 Katrin-LiluÁàëüöåð (Balzer), òàêæå Ãîëûé Êàðàìûø, Ïàíöûðü, äî 1917 ã. - íåìåöêàÿ êîëîíèÿ ñíà÷àëà Ñîñíîâñêîãî êîëîíèñòñêîãî îêðóãà, à ïîñëå 1871 ã. Ñîñíîâñêîé âîëîñòè (ïîçæå âîøëî â ñîñòàâ Ãîëî-Êàðàìûøñêîé âîëîñòè) Êàìûøèíñêîãî óåçäà, Ñàðàòîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè.  ñîâåòñêèé ïåðèîä - íåìåöêîå ñåëî è àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûé öåíòð ñíà÷àëà Êàðàìûøñêîãî ðàéîíà, Ãîëî-Êàðàìûøñêîãî óåçäà, Òðóäîâîé êîììóíû (Îáëàñòè) íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ, à ñ 1922 ã. - Ãîëî-Êàðàìûøñêîãî (â 1927 ã. ïåðåèìåíîâàí â Áàëüöåðñêèé) êàíòîíà Ðåñïóáëèêè íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ; àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûé öåíòð Áàëüöåðñêîãî ñåëüñêîãî ñîâåòà. https://lexikon.wolgadeutsche.net/article/410Keller Johann Heinrich 50,ref, Ackerbauer aus Isenburg Fr.Anna Maria 40 S. Johann Konrad 21 in der Kolonie eingetroffen am 8.8. 1767Keller Johann Heinrich, 50 ëåò íà 1767 ã. - ðîäîíà÷àëüíèê ôàìèëèè Êåëëåð èç Áàëüöåðà. https://www.forum.wolgadeutsch...p;start=40Âîçìîæíî, åñòü ÷òî-òî äëÿ Âàñ ïîëåçíîå: ÎÃÓ "Ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé èñòîðè÷åñêèé àðõèâ íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ â ã. Ýíãåëüñå". Ïðèãîâîðû ñåëüñêîãî ñõîäà ñ. Ñîñíîâêà Ãîëî-Êàðàìûøñêîé âîëîñòè Êàìûøèíñêîãî óåçäà Ñàðàòîâñêîé ãóáåðíèèÔîíä ¹ Ð-1389. Îï.1ÎÄ. Ä. 66Êîë-âî ëèñòîâ: 85 Äàòû äîêóìåíòîâ: 13.01.1917-21.04.1918 https://archivesaratov.ru/archive6/unit/176342Âåðîÿòíûå ðîäñòâåííèêè:Êåëåð Èîãàíåñ Ãåîðãèåâè÷ Äàòà ðîæäåíèÿ: 1900 ã. Ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ: ÀÑÑÐ ÍÏ, ã. ÁàëüöåðÏîë: ìóæ÷èíà Íàöèîíàëüíîñòü: íåìåö Ìåñòî ïðîæèâàíèÿ: Àëòàéñêèé êðàé, Ãðÿçíóõèíñêèé ð-í Äàòà ñìåðòè: 16 àïðåëÿ 1943 ã. Ìåñòî ñìåðòè: Óñîëüëàã, ÁóáûëÌåñòî îòáûâàíèÿ: Óñîëüëàã, Áóáûë Èñòî÷íèêè äàííûõ: Íåìöû-òðóäàðìåéöû, ïîãèáøèå â Óñîëüëàãå ÍÊÂÄ/ÌÂÄ ÑÑÑÐ (1942-1947 ãã.) Ïðèìå÷àíèå: Ïðèáûë 18.02.1942 ã.https://ru.openlist.wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%80_%D0%98%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%81_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_(1900) Êåëåð Èîãàíåñ Èîãàíñîâè÷ (1913, Áàëüöåð - 1942, Êóøìàíãîðò). È äðóãèå. Ñì. ¹¹1428 - 1442 https://wolgadeutsche.net/dies...llag_2.pdfÑïèñîê æåðòâ ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ ðåïðåññèé â ÑÑÑÐ, Êåëåðhttps://ru.openlist.wiki/Speci...0%B5%D1%80Êåëåð Ãåîðãèé ßêîâëåâè÷1893 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ - ÀÑÑÐ ÍÏ, Áàëüöåðñêèé ð-í, ã. Áàëüöåð, íåìåö, ïðîæèâàë(à) - Ñåâåðî- Êàçàõñòàíñêàÿ îáë., Êîê÷åòàâñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïàâëîâêà, ìîáèëèçîâàí(à) - 00.03.1942, Êîê÷åòàâñêèì ÐÂÊ, óáûë(à) - îïåðîòäåë, äàòà óáûòèÿ - 27.04.1943. Êíèãà Ïàìÿòè òðóäàðìåéöåâ òðåñòà «×åëÿáìåòàëëóðãñòðîÿ». https://bessmertnybarak.ru/books/person/465683/Ôàìèëèÿ ÊåëëåðÈìÿ Ôðàíö Îò÷åñòâî Êîíäðàòîâè÷ Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ 1914 Íàöèîíàëüíîñòü íåìåö Ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ Êóñòàíàéñêàÿ îáëàñòü, Ïåøêîâñêèé ðàéîí, ñ. Òåëüìàíà Ïðîæèâàë Ïåøêîâñêèé ðàéîí, ïîñ. Òåëüìàíà Ïðèçâàí Ôåäîðîâñêèì ÐÂÊ Ñëóæèë îò 07.04.1942 ã. Ñëóæèë äî 30.01.1947 ã. Ñòàòóñ, èíôîðìàöèÿ äåìîáèëèçîâàí https://dbases.archive74.ru/rv...er-page=50 --- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà. | | |
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14 àâãóñòà 2025 23:35 15 àâãóñòà 2025 9:45 Äîáðûé äåíü, ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà âñòðå÷àëàñü ëè êîìó-ëèáî ôàìèëèÿ Êîâáåð (ʸâáåð), èùó êîðíè ïî ïðàáàáóøêå - Êîâáåð Åëåíà Äàâûäîâíà (1911ã.ð), ê ñîæàëåíèþ äàæå íåò íàìåêà íà íàçâàíèå íàñåëåííîãî ïóíêòà åå ðîæäåíèÿ. Áûëî ìåòðè÷åñêîå (áóìàæíîå) ñâèäåòåëüñòâî íà íåìåöêîì ÿçûêå, íî îíî óòðà÷åíî. Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Åêàòåðèíà | | |
latgalecàíòðîïîëîã áûòîâîãî óðîâíÿ, áåæåíåö èíôîðì.âîéíû  Íîâîñèáèðñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ñîîáùåíèé: 1139 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 812 | Íàâåðõ ##
15 àâãóñòà 2025 4:09 Êîâáà - âñòðå÷àåòñÿ â Óêðàèíå, ïîìîåìó íà ×åðíèãîâùèíå. ---  Àðìèè Êîë÷àêîâñêîé ïðàäåäóøêà ñëóæèë
 õîëîäíîé Ñèáèðè ïîðÿäîê íàâîäèë.
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Âñå ñâåäåíèÿ î ëàòãàëüñêèõ êîë÷àêîâöàõ ðàçìåùåíû ìíîé äîáðîâîëüíî è áåç ñîãëàñèÿ èõ ïàòðèîòè÷åñêè íàñòðîåííûõ ïîòîìêîâ | | Ëàéê (1) |
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 ìîèõ àðõèâàõ íàøåë íåñêîëüêî ïåðñîí ñ ôàìèëèåé Êîâáåð (Cowper), íî âñå îíè àíãëè÷àíå. Frederica Henrietta Cowper * 1846 London Anne Cowper * 1610 Benhall, Suffolk, England Edward Cowper * 1572 London, Jane Cowper * 1789 Sharpenhoe, Bedfordshire, England Richard Cowper * 1576 Cornhill, London, England Robert Cowper * 1694 Gordon --- Arnbrecht, Behringer, Böhm, Büchert, Claus (Klaus), Diel, Dingens, Dörr (Derr), Döring, Eigster, Eisner, Ernst, Fischer, Frank, Gallowa, Göbel, Habermann, Heck, Henkel, Hippe, Kempel, Knaus, Kunzmann, Landmann, Leichner, Lohle, Luft, Meng, Micheilis, Michel | | |
latgalecàíòðîïîëîã áûòîâîãî óðîâíÿ, áåæåíåö èíôîðì.âîéíû  Íîâîñèáèðñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ñîîáùåíèé: 1139 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 812 | Íàâåðõ ##
15 àâãóñòà 2025 12:07 WaldemarKeer íàïèñàë: [q]  ìîèõ àðõèâàõ íàøåë íåñêîëüêî ïåðñîí ñ ôàìèëèåé Êîâáåð (Cowper), íî âñå îíè àíãëè÷àíå.
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 ñâîèõ èçâèëèíàõ íàøåë ôàìèëèþ Êàóïåð(ðóññêîÿçû÷íûå ,òàêæå, ïèñàëè Êàâïåð) íî åå íîñèòåëè - ëàòãàëüöû èç Ïðåéëüñêîãî êðàÿ, Ëàòâèÿ. Åñòü 2 èçâåñòíûõ íîñèòåëÿ îòòóäà: ìåñòíûé ëàòãàëüñêèé ðîáèíãóä Êàóïåð, óáèâàâøèé ïîìåùèêîâ íà ðóáåæå 19-20ââ è ìåæäóíàðîäíîèçâåñòíûé è ëàòûøñêîôîëêëîðíûé, (íî ñòàâøèé íåîæèäàíííî â 2015ã. - ëàòãàëüñêèì  ,) ïåâåö Ðåíàðä Êàóïåðñ(ãð. Áðàéíøòîðì, îíà-æå Ïðàòà Âåòðà) Íî ýòî ñêîðåå äëÿ ïåðåæèâàþùåãî íå ñàìûå ëó÷øèå âðåìåíà âîðóìà ëèíãâîôîðóì.íåò.
Åñëè âêëþ÷èòü íåìåöêóþ ëîãèêó, òî íîñèòåëè ôàìèëèè Êîâáåð äîëæíû áûòü â ãåðìàíî-ñêàíäèíàâî ãîâîðÿùèõ ñòðàíàõ çàïèñàíû êàê Êàóáåð èëè Êàóáà. Âîîáùå ñòðàííîå ñîâïàäåíèå, ÷òî Êîâáà ñ Óêðàèíû îòìåòèëèñü òóò íåäàâíî - íåñêîëüêî ìåñÿöåâ íàçàä. (ùàñ ïðîâåðþ - ïîòåðëè èõ èëè íåò  ) ---  Àðìèè Êîë÷àêîâñêîé ïðàäåäóøêà ñëóæèë
 õîëîäíîé Ñèáèðè ïîðÿäîê íàâîäèë.
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Âñå ñâåäåíèÿ î ëàòãàëüñêèõ êîë÷àêîâöàõ ðàçìåùåíû ìíîé äîáðîâîëüíî è áåç ñîãëàñèÿ èõ ïàòðèîòè÷åñêè íàñòðîåííûõ ïîòîìêîâ | | |
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