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Hi,


Kelli_D написал:
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First I'm searching for the death entry of Arthur Evaldovic (Iwanovich or Arthur Robert Emanuel) Hunnius. He died on 29 November 1888 in Moscow. He was an officer in the 12. Astrachanskij regiment, which was stationed in Moscow. He was catholic. Where I could found the entry?
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This should be in Church Books. I don't know is there are any Catholic Churches were at this time in Moscow. They should be, at least. Those books should be stored in the Central Historical Archive of Moscow. Currently this archive called the moscow Central Archive.

According to fond lists
  • 609 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКАЯ ПЕТРОПАВЛОВСКАЯ ЦЕРКОВЬ, Г. МОСКВА. 1797-1923
  • 2193 МОСКОВСКАЯ РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКАЯ ФРАНЦУЗСКАЯ СВЯТОГО ЛЮДОВИКА ЦЕРКОВЬ. 1834-1918
  • 2197 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКИЙ КАПЕЛЛАН МОСКОВСКОГО ВОЕННОГО ОКРУГА. 1857-1917


however it might not be the ended list.


Kelli_D написал:
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And second the RGWIa has got lists of officer to searching for personnel lists? I ask the RGWIA, if they have got the personnel list of Arthur Hunnius regarding to the 12. Astransskij regiment. Their answer was negative. Could it be, that for Arthur Hunnius a personnel file is existing?
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A personal file of an officer does not associated with his regiment. It is associated and searchable by officers Last name, First name and Middle name. Any additional information is not required but appreciated.


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I ask the RGWIA, if they have got the personnel list of Arthur Hunnius regarding to the 12. Astransskij regiment. Their answer was negative. Could it be, that for Arthur Hunnius a personnel file is existing?
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Most probably that it is not. But, not all personal files are in such officers' catalog.


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Can somebody research in these lists?
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You could find someone who is currently working in RGWIA (doing research I mean).

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Well, I don't know, if the archive searched in the officers catalog, because they wrote:

"По данным научно-справочного аппарата архива и при просмотре материалов 12-го гренадерского Астраханского и 15-го пехотного Шлиссельбургского полков сведений о службе Гунниуса Артура Эвальдовича (Артур, Роберт, Эмануил) и Пфундта Эммануеля Юханновича не обнаружено."

I think, they searched especially in the regiment fond.

2197 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКИЙ КАПЕЛЛАН МОСКОВСКОГО ВОЕННОГО ОКРУГА. 1857-1917

--> This is a possibilty to search and I will ask the archive for a possible death entry of Arthur Hunnius.



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Kelli_D написал:
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I think, they searched especially in the regiment fond.
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Most probably they were looking bith the catalog and polks' fonds.


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--> This is a possibilty to search and I will ask the archive for a possible death entry of Arthur Hunnius.
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Possibly, but if he died after reteirnment than most probably the record of this deafth should be in a ordinary church.

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No he died at the age of 24 years.
According to family lore, he died in a duel, but official it was suicide.
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Hi,

after researching now I know, that Dmitry Krestovozdivzhenskiy was born in Kostroma. Later the family moved to St. Petersburg. Where I can find the family book of him? If any book does exist. In Kostroma or in St. Petersburg?
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Hi,

There was no family book which follows a family from place to place. However, when a family was moving to another place they should be registered. A sort of family book (ревизская сказка) should be written with information about all arrived to a new place family member. It was stored in a sort of city administration.

Also, there are were state revisions (last with saved personal information is dated by 1858). Cities after 1858 sometimes organized such local revisions. They are also located in fonds of city administration.

Finally, you could find the information in Kostroma and St. Petersburg as well, the question is about date.

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Thank you for your answer, Andrey!

Hm...okay. Now I have to check the certificates of the births again, if I find information about the year.


Update:
Okay I found a notice in a birth certificate in 1868 about this church:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%...0%D0%B3%29

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Hi, I am not sure which church is of your interest, but you should look its books here: http://spbarchives.ru/web/grou...h=wUYGF02Y

P.S. Sorry for the late response.

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Hey Andrey,
thanks for your help and answer.
In the last days I translated the file of the novality status of the Krestovozdvizhenskij family and I have new information:

I have all children of Ivan Diomidovic:

Arkadij Ivanovic was born on 07 Sept. 1865 in the Borisoglebsikj church in Kostroma,
Dmitriy Ivanovic was born on 21 Sept. 1866 in the same church,
Aleksandr Ivanovic was born on 22 Nov. 1868 in the Vvedenskij church (on the St. Peterburger side) in St. Peterburg,
Michail Ivanovic was born on 05 Sept. 1872 in the Blagovledenskij cathedral in Shlisselburg.

There are three daughters:
Elisaveta Ivanovna was born on 19 April 1877,
Valentina Ivanovna was born on 10 Dez. 1882,
Anastasia Ivanovna was born on 04 March 1885.
Here I don't any information about the birth places.

Maybe someone has other information, too.
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Kelli_D написал:
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Borisoglebsikj church in Kostroma,
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You may ask The Kostroma Regional Archive to look for the Krestovozdvizhensky family list at the 10th Russian State Revision dated approx 1858/1860. Most probably you will know about Ivan relatives, since I think they were live in Kostroma.

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