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Kelli_D написал:
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Well, it seems, that I need also somebody, who goes into the Russian Historical Archive. In St. Petersburg?
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Yes.

If you need I could recommend two persons who did some work for me =) I payed them.

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It is a possibility! I think about an enquiry to the Historical State Archive, but I didn't found any payment terms and also for foreign person it is very difficult.

I'm interested in these two persons. What is your price? It is important! :)
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What is your price? It is important!
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my - nothing. See personal message =)

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I have two questions:

First I'm searching for the death entry of Arthur Evaldovic (Iwanovich or Arthur Robert Emanuel) Hunnius. He died on 29 November 1888 in Moscow. He was an officer in the 12. Astrachanskij regiment, which was stationed in Moscow. He was catholic. Where I could found the entry?

And second the RGWIa has got lists of officer to searching for personnel lists? I ask the RGWIA, if they have got the personnel list of Arthur Hunnius regarding to the 12. Astransskij regiment. Their answer was negative. Could it be, that for Arthur Hunnius a personnel file is existing? Can somebody research in these lists?
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Hi,


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First I'm searching for the death entry of Arthur Evaldovic (Iwanovich or Arthur Robert Emanuel) Hunnius. He died on 29 November 1888 in Moscow. He was an officer in the 12. Astrachanskij regiment, which was stationed in Moscow. He was catholic. Where I could found the entry?
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This should be in Church Books. I don't know is there are any Catholic Churches were at this time in Moscow. They should be, at least. Those books should be stored in the Central Historical Archive of Moscow. Currently this archive called the moscow Central Archive.

According to fond lists
  • 609 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКАЯ ПЕТРОПАВЛОВСКАЯ ЦЕРКОВЬ, Г. МОСКВА. 1797-1923
  • 2193 МОСКОВСКАЯ РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКАЯ ФРАНЦУЗСКАЯ СВЯТОГО ЛЮДОВИКА ЦЕРКОВЬ. 1834-1918
  • 2197 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКИЙ КАПЕЛЛАН МОСКОВСКОГО ВОЕННОГО ОКРУГА. 1857-1917


however it might not be the ended list.


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And second the RGWIa has got lists of officer to searching for personnel lists? I ask the RGWIA, if they have got the personnel list of Arthur Hunnius regarding to the 12. Astransskij regiment. Their answer was negative. Could it be, that for Arthur Hunnius a personnel file is existing?
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A personal file of an officer does not associated with his regiment. It is associated and searchable by officers Last name, First name and Middle name. Any additional information is not required but appreciated.


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I ask the RGWIA, if they have got the personnel list of Arthur Hunnius regarding to the 12. Astransskij regiment. Their answer was negative. Could it be, that for Arthur Hunnius a personnel file is existing?
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Most probably that it is not. But, not all personal files are in such officers' catalog.


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Can somebody research in these lists?
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You could find someone who is currently working in RGWIA (doing research I mean).

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Well, I don't know, if the archive searched in the officers catalog, because they wrote:

"По данным научно-справочного аппарата архива и при просмотре материалов 12-го гренадерского Астраханского и 15-го пехотного Шлиссельбургского полков сведений о службе Гунниуса Артура Эвальдовича (Артур, Роберт, Эмануил) и Пфундта Эммануеля Юханновича не обнаружено."

I think, they searched especially in the regiment fond.

2197 РИМСКО-КАТОЛИЧЕСКИЙ КАПЕЛЛАН МОСКОВСКОГО ВОЕННОГО ОКРУГА. 1857-1917

--> This is a possibilty to search and I will ask the archive for a possible death entry of Arthur Hunnius.



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Kelli_D написал:
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I think, they searched especially in the regiment fond.
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Most probably they were looking bith the catalog and polks' fonds.


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--> This is a possibilty to search and I will ask the archive for a possible death entry of Arthur Hunnius.
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Possibly, but if he died after reteirnment than most probably the record of this deafth should be in a ordinary church.

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No he died at the age of 24 years.
According to family lore, he died in a duel, but official it was suicide.
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Hi,

after researching now I know, that Dmitry Krestovozdivzhenskiy was born in Kostroma. Later the family moved to St. Petersburg. Where I can find the family book of him? If any book does exist. In Kostroma or in St. Petersburg?
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Hi,

There was no family book which follows a family from place to place. However, when a family was moving to another place they should be registered. A sort of family book (ревизская сказка) should be written with information about all arrived to a new place family member. It was stored in a sort of city administration.

Also, there are were state revisions (last with saved personal information is dated by 1858). Cities after 1858 sometimes organized such local revisions. They are also located in fonds of city administration.

Finally, you could find the information in Kostroma and St. Petersburg as well, the question is about date.

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